Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Supersnow845]

The thing I hate about these videos/threads/topics is there is just zero relativity from people. Its either perfect or worst game ever released. Have these sorts of people ever played other video games?

I love FF14, I have played LOTS, like LOTS, of other MMOs (which I also loved for different reasons) and I am well aware of its superior and inferior design decisions. It's pretty reasonable to say that for 80% off the people 80% of the design philosophy is really really good. However, even the most stalwart fan should be able to admit some level of non-perfection, the same way the doomers should grow up and admit that the faults are not all encompassing and catastrophic. There will also be a handful for whom the design choices are deal breakers, that's fine, no MMO is the Jesus MMO. However, as a total package seen from 40,000ft there are VERY few MMOs that make as many consistently fun and player conscious design decisions, the 80% good well out-weighs the 20% bad for the significant majority. Does that mean we can't discuss the 20% bad? No, go for it, but be measured and reasonable and not a 12 year old doomer (or an unhinged white knight). But we all know that this forum in particular has a large population (proportionally) of shit stirrers and 12 year old panic-merchants so that ain't likely to happen.

Is the FF14 glam system an inferior design to say WoW or BDO? Sure, obviously without even discussing it. Is it a critical game destroying issue? No, clearly not. I think the Island Sanctuary was a significant waste of resources but I don't hate the fact it's there or begrudge people who like it, I'm not the only person here and 100% of the resources of the game don't need to be devoted purely to stuff I like, if I think like that I have to accept that the people sitting on the Island are right when they say PVP (which I enjoy) is a waste of time.

Does anyone here actually think that 14 is a trash pile that nobody should want to play

If anything our desire to want to play it is why we complain about the lack of content

[MintnHoney]

However unlike you, I dont go gloom and doom all over it. Im content to wait and see what eventuates.

If learning from past experiences is what defines doom and gloom in your world, then, I guess proof about bliss being in ignorance really does lie in the pudding.

Look at all your posts on the topic and tell me that.

I'm not entirely sure what this is supposed to mean, but, sure.
After reviewing the few posts on this topic, that I have personally made, I will return and tell you that you are, as I said before, still quick to judge self-righteously and be dismissive while you stick your head in the sand. When that happens, I don't know, but past experience might tell you what's really going to happen if you ever learn to believe in that sort of thing (being the positive person that I am not, apparently).

But I did remember that they're going to do that Fall Guys collab, so there's that, too, I guess.

[Zairava]

Just yikes

I'm honestly not sure why you guys are even still wasting your energy replying to them when I posted a lengthy constructive criticism on Endwalker a while ago (which got totally nuked out of general discussion, since it was pre NA fanfest...I think), which included the good, meh, and bad of this expansion thus far. They're response to this was to completely discard my efforts because I dared to include that I was enjoying, and still would if I so returned to it, WoW's Dragonflight expansion because "Blizzard bad". They even stated they think this game is perfect and doesn't need changes (in this thread)...for whatever reason, because that's sure why 1.0 needed to be completely redone, huh? Surely only giving positive feedback and nothing but positive feedback is how we got ARR.

Here's the thread if anyone is curious to check it out https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...alker-thus-far

However, content creators returning to new expansion is true. It would be undeniably stupid not to make the content when it's richest. Although...Zepla never actually quit the game, though. She took a break and I honestly would not blame her if she took another one. Might as well wait until 6.55 and leave the current content drops alone until then because at least you'll have content to run before Dawntrail launches.

We are in the same exact scenario WoW was however long ago. People shoving their heads in the sand and covering their ears because "everything is fine guys, StoP CoMpLaiNiNg. JusT UnSub". Which is fine and all, until it isn't and it starts taking longer and longer and longer for your queues to fill and whatever else.

[VelKallor]

If learning from past experiences is what defines doom and gloom in your world, then, I guess proof about bliss being in ignorance really does lie in the pudding.

So you already know exactly what will happen between now and 7.0. Got it.

[Supersnow845]

So you already know exactly what will happen between now and 7.0. Got it.

Pretty much yes because 14 never strays from its patch cycle, they plan ahead, that doesn’t mean they plan to have gaps that they then fill when one patch before the gap they realise people are sick of the lack of content

We know what’s coming between now and 7.0, hoping for anything more is high tier copium

[jameseoakes]

So you already know exactly what will happen between now and 7.0. Got it.

Well we know pretty well what's coming, we've got 6.5 with what looks to be the base we'd expect for a odd numbered patch plus some IS content, 6.51 will give us a new variant and the crafter and gatherer relics and then after the new year we'll get 6.55 with relics and the rest of the story and at some point we'll get a combined EW beast tribe arc.
The only other content we know of is the Fall Guys cross over coming at some point

[Zairava]

Pretty much yes because 14 never strays from its patch cycle, they plan ahead, that doesn’t mean they plan to have gaps that they then fill later

We know what’s coming between now and 7.0, hoping for anything more is high tier copium

They also really weren't subtle, either. off the top of my head we're getting (before 7.0):

• MSQ, obviously. (6.5)
• Dungeon and trial (6.5)
• The next [very likely] comically under-tuned alliance raid (6.5)
• The usual gatherer/crafter updates if any (feel free to list them, because despite leveling them I am by no means a hand/land enthusiast) (6.5)
• The next variant and criterion. (with having little to no hope they actually adjusted the rewards, if we've learned anything from the first and second criterion) (6.51)
• Fall guys collab
• Final one or two stages of the hildibrand "relics" which is probably just going to be 1500 tomes again lmao (6.55)
• That bonus trial that, correct me if I'm wrong, is scheduled for 6.55?
• Spreadshe- I mean Island Sanctuary updates (6.5?)

I don't want to get into theoreticals, but yes there is potential for a XVI collab before Dawntrail launch.

Even this post can be summed up by what James and Snow said before me. It's the usual, we already know what to expect.

Could they add more in? Sure, but we have no reason to expect they will.

[Saraide]

Does anyone here actually think that 14 is a trash pile that nobody should want to play

So far I agree.

Does anyone here actually think that 14 is a trash pile that nobody should want to play

This part of the statement I dont agree with.

What the white knights need to understand is that enjoying a bad game doesnt make someone a bad person. We're allowed to unapologetically enjoy bad games.

[Nebelheim]

Because they are well aware of the gap and will have made a contingency plan for that eventuality? They do plan ahead you know.

You really think there going to make a patch 6.6 and get out of there normal schedule for a contingency plan to help people not get bored. None of the other expansions got a .6 patch what makes you think endwalkers will.I can tell you recently started playing during shadowbriners or endwalkers there has always been a 6 month gap between the .5 patch and the next expansion and they never released a .6 patch. There not going to change that now.

[Reap00]

So far I agree.



This part of the statement I dont agree with.

What the white knights need to understand is that enjoying a bad game doesnt make someone a bad person. We're allowed to unapologetically enjoy bad games.

We can also ignore the terrible opinions presented by others. XIV is a fantastic game I play every single day. Imagine coming to a forum devoted to a game. Imagine spending every breath spreading negativity about said game. People of that ilk need help. If you are unhappy move on with your life. The game will go on just fine without you.