Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Supersnow845]

Forum posters love to say that the forums are a minority echo chamber and that reddit is biased, now most of the big WOW streamers that came to 14 after the great exodus have either left to go back to WOW, other games or just use 14 as a side game when their side game is boring. Now one of the oldest WOW refugees who’s probably older than most players here, and is also one of the largest 14 exclusive streamers has put out a video critiquing EW’s content volume and they still don’t acknowledge it

Genuine question if you are arguing in good faith what is the point you are willing to admit that this may in fact be a legit problem the game is facing outside of yoshi stating in the next live letter the game is actively failing

[Kaliesto]

I like this game too, but I can't ignore the problems with it however.

But..I think I said everything I wanted to say from other topics about this game, I have nothing else more to say until I hope they can change this game around, but it does not seem very likely.

I think whatever they learn from FFXIV is going to be done for the next FF MMO, and hopefully the same mistakes don't happen again.

Also

I kept in mind this game is old, and has its limitations.

I do appreciate Yoshi P and his team for their commitment to filling out every named place as the story goes along.

Some MMOs never take you to all the locations throughout its complete lifecycle.

Least I hope that trend will keep going for the next 10 years, and we visit every country, island and continent of Ethierys.

[TheGrimace]

I wonder if the XIV forum moderators will ever figure out how to IP ban to prevent people from making accounts once they have been banned. It would save us- and them by proxy- a lot of trouble.

[kaynide]

Re: OP

Sure, Devs could do a better job. Hopefully they do. It's easy to rest on one's laurels and that's how the 1.0 debacle happened in the first place. Here's hoping they do better! And if not, I'll play something else.



Re: OP's thread being needed/pointless/etc

I mean, really OP is likely an alt to get around daily post limits. And if they aren't it doesn't really matter.

Maybe their fun is in stirring the pot or otherwise causing people to get in a huff, but generally their point is one that could be discussed without fighting. And even that doesn't really matter.

The ultimate take-away should be if you spot something obviously made for getting people mad, just don't engage/reply to it. If one has nothing to say that furthers the conversation, just let it be. Even troll posts can become productive if people just discuss instead of having to prove something.

A mantra of mine I wish I followed more was "Does this thing I typed out do anything to further the conversation? If not, delete and move on". I wish I would stick to that more.

[Jeeqbit]

People in the game are genuinely concerned about some things. What I see discussed in the game as well is how boring and easy healers are, how jobs were dumbed down such as SMN, or the lack of things to do in the game. But this is mixed in with a lot of positivity as well. Just like on these forums, people are split on SMN and many people like the new SMN. Many people love just using their heal spells and nothing else. People have always discussed a "lack of things to do in the game", long before Endwalker and the only thing you could assume of such people, at least prior to Endwalker, is that they don't do all the content in the game or they rush through it all in one go, or don't actually farm for mounts or other rewards. Not liking Endwalker's story seems kinda common because of the pacing or how the deaths are done. There is a prevalent belief that FF16 took away focus from FF14 even though Yoshi-P has denied this (since they were working on FF16 since Stormblood started development).

A lot of people are in quite a positive frame of mind just because of being newer to the game and still having lots of jobs to level. So they are still excited to try out a tank or healer they haven't unlocked, for example. Whereas someone who has played for a really long time has probably had time to play and level everything and is more likely to be bored.

As for people's contentment with taking breaks, actually, I don't see people having much problem with this. I see Returners regularly. They have other games they want to play anyway and Returners always seem happy to be back and to get into the new content.

There is genuine feedback on this forum sometimes. It just gets mixed in with a whole lot of nonsense, such as discussing streamers personal lives, alts, random dramas, the state of the forum, questioning eachothers' sincerity, topics saying what we should or shouldn't do or discussing duty finder players that isn't actual feedback the deveopers can use, or even completely off-topic subjects such as other games. Sometimes it's been so overwhelmingly negative that it isn't even reasonable, but it seems better now so maybe some of those people left. Sometimes there have been new topics that don't even make a constructive argument from which a proper debate can occur. At least titanmen comes up with them with them for their posts, because whether you see it as bait or not it allows for actual debate.

[AlexiaD]

I wonder if the XIV forum moderators will ever figure out how to IP ban to prevent people from making accounts once they have been banned. It would save us- and them by proxy- a lot of trouble.

OP : posts video about a content creator that says the game has issues, but that some things are good

TheGrimace : I hope OP gets banned for posting the video !!

Great community btw, too bad he seems to have infinite accounts so you dont get your echo chamber of toxic positivity, cry about it.

[Lauront]

She's spot on imo and her critique isn't even that bad. She prefaces every negative point with how much she loves the game to the point that it's a little annoying at times.

Yup, I noticed that as well. Almost like she's having to do it because she knows certain people won't listen otherwise - and even then, they still assume the worst, as we saw in this very thread.

It is amusing to me that some posters here are claiming this is nothing but a den of trolls etc. Perhaps it reveals more about their own intentions and contributions here than anything else.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

I mean, Zep has been branching out already. With how many hours that she has put into FF14 she may really just need a break.

[AlexiaD]

I mean, Zep has been branching out already. With how many hours that she has put into FF14 she may really just need a break.

Or maybe just maybe the game has issues ?

The community to the game having issues : NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! IT CANT BE!

[Lauront]

I mean, Zep has been branching out already. With how many hours that she has put into FF14 she may really just need a break.

She addresses that in the first minute or so. Her concerns remain even after taking a break...