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    She's spot on imo and her critique isn't even that bad. She prefaces every negative point with how much she loves the game to the point that it's a little annoying at times. But what she's saying the game needs to work on is 100% accurate.
    Forum responses have been predictable. I only came here to see the inevitable head-in-the-sand response to a well known XIV content creator echoing the same critiques many of us here have been saying for months/years. Maybe next they will say that Zepla is a Titanman alt, lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    She's spot on imo and her critique isn't even that bad. She prefaces every negative point with how much she loves the game to the point that it's a little annoying at times.
    Yup, I noticed that as well. Almost like she's having to do it because she knows certain people won't listen otherwise - and even then, they still assume the worst, as we saw in this very thread.

    It is amusing to me that some posters here are claiming this is nothing but a den of trolls etc. Perhaps it reveals more about their own intentions and contributions here than anything else.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 09-03-2023 at 08:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    She's spot on imo and her critique isn't even that bad. She prefaces every negative point with how much she loves the game to the point that it's a little annoying at times. But what she's saying the game needs to work on is 100% accurate.
    Forum responses have been predictable. I only came here to see the inevitable head-in-the-sand response to a well known XIV content creator echoing the same critiques many of us here have been saying for months/years. Maybe next they will say that Zepla is a Titanman alt, lmao
    What's funny is this opinion isn't unique to Zelpa. Even the likes of Mr. Happy and Mizzteq have been critical of Endwalker. Which is downright unheard from either one of them in the past. Happy's repeatedly mention the relic being a huge disappointment among other things and Mizzteq outright admitted she's completely lost interest, albeit partly due to how poorly her Savage group was but also citing how stale the formula has become. You then have two highly prolific WoW streamers in Naguura and AnnaFuchsia who quit after being repeatedly and incessantly harassed for not prioritizing the story or liking it to the extent people thought they should. Both are known for being highly positive streamers too. So you can't dismiss this as a LimitMax situation.

    At some point, you can't keep dismissing every little bit of criticism as a minority. It isn't like these streamers all suddenly woke up one morning and decided "Ya know, FFXIV sucks." Xenosys literally has a video of him crying on stream because of the sheer impact FFXIV's had on his life, and how touched he was when Yoshida commented on his channel directly to him. That hasn't stopped him from being critical.

    If you like Endwalker, then more power to you. A lot of people find it divisive at best. Which is fine. We're all entitled to our opinions. Just as you're welcome to love EW, others are welcome to be critical of it.

    Or maybe this is all just a massive Titanman conspiracy theory lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    What's funny is this opinion isn't unique to Zelpa. Even the likes of Mr. Happy and Mizzteq have been critical of Endwalker. Which is downright unheard from either one of them in the past. Happy's repeatedly mention the relic being a huge disappointment among other things and Mizzteq outright admitted she's completely lost interest, albeit partly due to how poorly her Savage group was but also citing how stale the formula has become. You then have two highly prolific WoW streamers in Naguura and AnnaFuchsia who quit after being repeatedly and incessantly harassed for not prioritizing the story or liking it to the extent people thought they should. Both are known for being highly positive streamers too. So you can't dismiss this as a LimitMax situation.

    At some point, you can't keep dismissing every little bit of criticism as a minority. It isn't like these streamers all suddenly woke up one morning and decided "Ya know, FFXIV sucks." Xenosys literally has a video of him crying on stream because of the sheer impact FFXIV's had on his life, and how touched he was when Yoshida commented on his channel directly to him. That hasn't stopped him from being critical.

    But maybe this is all just a massive Titanman conspiracy theory lol
    Apparently the forums members that are disliking streamers even more then ever after zepla and other streamers have recently started heavily criticizing instead of being overly happy gamers that overhype the game seem to think there criticisms are attacking the playerbase and are a part of titanmens grand scheme of game wide domination. People who once love zepla for being dismissive towards criticism and saying how perfect the game was and how wrong it was to criticize the game like some forumers do are suddenly turning on her for daring to criticize the game. Even people like zepla has breaking points and seems her and other streamers have reached there breaking points with endwalkers patches. No amount of "just wait it might get better" is going to change the fact that we have waited and things haven't got better with this expansions patches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    No amount of "just wait it might get better"
    yea this philosophy never made any sense to me, but its been here since ARR so i never questioned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    People who once love zepla for being dismissive towards criticism and saying how perfect the game was and how wrong it was to criticize the game like some forumers do are suddenly turning on her for daring to criticize the game.
    This is the outcome I'm expecting, provided it's actually happening at all. Without any "proof" to back it up (outside of the forums), I can only speculate. I just know the player base, and I can usually predict where things will go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    This is the outcome I'm expecting, provided it's actually happening at all. Without any "proof" to back it up (outside of the forums), I can only speculate. I just know the player base, and I can usually predict where things will go.
    It wouldn't surprise me if some of her fans turned on her for expressing criticism for the one video she made on endwalkers considering some people in this thread felt attacked by her video. Her video wasn't even negative and had valid points but some people would probably see this one video as negative and stop watching her. Its like people expect zepla to always be her positive self then the moment she makes a video criticizing endwalkers people act like there being attacked and victimized because she did a video that she isn't known for doing since she always remains positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    What's funny is this opinion isn't unique to Zelpa. Even the likes of Mr. Happy and Mizzteq have been critical of Endwalker. Which is downright unheard from either one of them in the past. Happy's repeatedly mention the relic being a huge disappointment among other things and Mizzteq outright admitted she's completely lost interest, albeit partly due to how poorly her Savage group was but also citing how stale the formula has become. You then have two highly prolific WoW streamers in Naguura and AnnaFuchsia who quit after being repeatedly and incessantly harassed for not prioritizing the story or liking it to the extent people thought they should. Both are known for being highly positive streamers too. So you can't dismiss this as a LimitMax situation.

    At some point, you can't keep dismissing every little bit of criticism as a minority. It isn't like these streamers all suddenly woke up one morning and decided "Ya know, FFXIV sucks." Xenosys literally has a video of him crying on stream because of the sheer impact FFXIV's had on his life, and how touched he was when Yoshida commented on his channel directly to him. That hasn't stopped him from being critical.

    If you like Endwalker, then more power to you. A lot of people find it divisive at best. Which is fine. We're all entitled to our opinions. Just as you're welcome to love EW, others are welcome to be critical of it.

    Or maybe this is all just a massive Titanman conspiracy theory lmao
    I had no idea that’s why naguura stopped streaming the game. She’s an incredibly good player and I was disappointed to see she went back to wow full time.

    This community man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    I had no idea that’s why naguura stopped streaming the game. She’s an incredibly good player and I was disappointed to see she went back to wow full time.

    This community man.
    It happened with Asmongold too, Ironically, it was FFXIV that "broke the camel's back" as it were and contributed to him primarily streaming on his alt Twitch account now. He got so fed up with people bugging him about the MSQ and how to play the game, he stopped playing it altogether. With Naguura, she did eventually relent to being constantly pressured to play the MSQ and wound up hating it as a result that she quit. Anna had to post this on Twitter:



    And before anyone tries to say she didn't give the game a chance, she got up to 5.3 without any skips. She just didn't love the story the way the GCBTW demands. It's ridiculous how cult like people can get with this game and the MSQ.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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