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    I really wish they would dump the help text boxes and do a more interactive tutorial method and do things like when there would be an active help popup, instead grey out the screen, show you where the thing is they are talking about and have you click through what they use text to explain so you can actively see how to do different things instead of having a series of text boxes to read with no interaction.

    I agree that the job quests would be a great place to more actively teach new players how to play the game.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    I really wish they would dump the help text boxes and do a more interactive tutorial method and do things like when there would be an active help popup, instead grey out the screen, show you where the thing is they are talking about and have you click through what they use text to explain so you can actively see how to do different things instead of having a series of text boxes to read with no interaction.

    I agree that the job quests would be a great place to more actively teach new players how to play the game.
    Yeah- for tutorials, I would love it to somehow gray the screen except characters and like... pause the entire world with arrows pointing stuff out.

    Or do like God of War where it has a video showing it in action and explaining it.
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    I really wish they would dump the help text boxes and do a more interactive tutorial method and do things like when there would be an active help popup, instead grey out the screen, show you where the thing is they are talking about and have you click through what they use text to explain so you can actively see how to do different things instead of having a series of text boxes to read with no interaction.

    I agree that the job quests would be a great place to more actively teach new players how to play the game.
    Kinda like a Devil May Cry combo room. Hey here is your ability. This is what it looks like. This is what it does. Got it? Cool. Here is an immortal punching bag enemy. Do things. We will let you know if you did the thing right.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Kinda like a Devil May Cry combo room. Hey here is your ability. This is what it looks like. This is what it does. Got it? Cool. Here is an immortal punching bag enemy. Do things. We will let you know if you did the thing right.
    I am reminded of one of the CNJ quests where you have a bunch of NPCs fighting off the antelope and you have to heal the NPCs. It's janky and annoying but it teaches you how to heal and iirc it even tells you to DPS when you don't need to heal. It is a one off quest and you never have another that teaches you how to remove cure 1 from your bar after you unlock cure 2, so it's obviously not perfect, but it's an example of something they can do to teach you how to play your job inside of job quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    I am reminded of one of the CNJ quests where you have a bunch of NPCs fighting off the antelope and you have to heal the NPCs. It's janky and annoying but it teaches you how to heal and iirc it even tells you to DPS when you don't need to heal. It is a one off quest and you never have another that teaches you how to remove cure 1 from your bar after you unlock cure 2, so it's obviously not perfect, but it's an example of something they can do to teach you how to play your job inside of job quests.
    That or Archer was one of my first jobs so it's been AGES since I've done that quest. I vaguely remember it and yeah it does tell you to do both.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.