Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[VelKallor]

The problem with the post is nothing was shared, no discussion was had, nothing at all was added to the conversation

The same can be said for OP's posting history. Or others who contribute even less. Whats your point.

heir post was I don't care what a streamer thinks and I have opinions that I am gonna keep to myself.

Yep. Im the same,. Streamers make sense but their error rate is high.

You are drawing conclusions from a pretty ambiguous post where you can also come to the conclusion they are saying they don't need anyone else to tell them they don't like where the game is going.

Thats pretty much accurate. I dont set much stock in streamers either, they usually have their own agenda, MANY of them use the game as a means to an end, i.e money so you have to take that very much into account. I have a huge soft spot for Zepla, she has had some rotten events happen in her life, but that doesnt mean i dont take her stream comments with a pinch of salt.

[Theodric]

The same can be said for OP's posting history. Or others who contribute even less. Whats your point.

I'd agree to disagree on that front. This very thread managed to spawn - as of the time of this post - seventeen pages of discussion and I'd say there's at least some civil and intriguing takes to be found.

[VelKallor]

I disagree. This very thread managed to spawn - as of the time of this post - seventeen pages of discussion and I'd say there's at least some civil and intriguing takes to be found.

You missed my point but never mind.

I had to literally hold my sides in to see Hazzikostas REWRITE HISTORY.

WE WARNED him and all the devs about what Garrisons were going to be, we told him, again and again what was going to happen, as usual all the beta advice was tossed out and ignored. He was told that if he ignored the players feedback and went ahead with what was described as "this is the expac all the devs wanted to play"...Karabor, Bladespire, all the cut content, Fort Copypasta and Camp Zug Zug, all the mistakes of WOD were foreseen and ignored.

WE BEGGED THEM not to cut flying, we posted reams of feedback on why we wanted Karabor and Bladespire, we were told we could spend time in the new Shattrath and it was gutted instead.

WOD was get to max level then raid or die. We told them this was a bad idea. They didnt listen.

None of these locations made it to Warlords of Draenor. The islands, including Farahlon, were removed from the in-game world map by launch, though they still appear on in-universe maps. While the Ogre Continent is still present on the World of Warcraft world map, it is rarely mentioned outside a few lines of dialogue.

Plenty of features were changed during Warlords of Draenor, but none were so egregious as Garrisons. Garrisons were imagined to be World of Warcraft’s player housing. Players could put their Garrison in any zone, and could freely move it later. Followers would be fully customizable, and could complete quests, dungeons, and even raids on behalf of the players. Buildings would be highly-modular, with versatile placement, decorations, and multiple powers to choose from.

Almost none of these features made it to Warlords of Draenor. Garrisons were stuck in the Frostfire Ridge for Horde players and Shadowmoon Valley for the Alliance. Buildings could not be customized, could be placed in only a couple spots in the Garrison, and had specific powers. Followers were not customizable, and the rock-paper-scissors-like Mission Table replaced their dispatch. Other early ideas, like battle pet breeding, never made it past the concept stage.

Id link it all and show you...if it hadnt been sent down the memory hole.

[VelKallor]

I'd agree to disagree on that front.

OH...PLEASE.....

Koros? Hunky whatever? Titanmen?

Spare me.

[Theodric]

OH...PLEASE.....

Koros? Hunky whatever? Titanmen?

Spare me.

I have no particular grudge with the original poster of this thread, regardless as to whether or not they're one and the same individual that you're referring to.

The thread's premise intrigued me because I think it's good to see a prominent streamer speak out on problems that many players around these parts have brought up themselves as concerns. It's not much deeper than that for many, I'd imagine.

[VelKallor]

that many players around these parts have brought up themselves as concerns

This forums =/= "many"

[Supersnow845]

This forums =/= "many"

These forums, reddit, most Facebook groups, twitter, stream chat, large discords

What constitutes enough evidence to say it’s genuinely a concern because I can’t think of a single channel that isn’t talking about this problem right now except maybe RP club chat

[Theodric]

This forums =/= "many"

I've been posting around these parts for a decade, mate. I've met and befriended a considerable amount of players around these parts over the years - quite a few of whom I'd have never met in-game due to playing on a completely different server/datacentre. There's a pretty broad range of people posting here and a significant number of lurkers as well.

It's also the primary official point of engagement between customers and the business since any other place of engagement relies on a third party platform as an in-between.

[Amenara]

The same can be said for OP's posting history. Or others who contribute even less. Whats your point.

I don't disagree that the OPs post was nothing more than watch this video, however the video has a lot of good discussion points with potential issues with the game. I think the point is that there are some valid points Zepla brings up and are worth the discussion, especially since FFXIV streamers are generally pretty positive in their discussion of the game and having one come out with a video of the perceived problems is interesting to talk about. I get that a lot of people don't watch/like streamers at all, but it has been brought up multiple times that they are essentially our only way of directly discussing issues with the people in charge of the game's direction and their opinion has weight if for no other reason than that. Whether you agree with the opinion or not is another reason the discussion is important as it is potentially our way to convey either you agree or disagree and why and have the ability to perhaps refine the streamers opinions before they take them to the devs in the media tour.

Yep. Im the same,. Streamers make sense but their error rate is high.

That is why the discussion is important. Streamers do read the forums from time to time as seen by them farming content from it and besides commenting on the video on youtube it's about the best way we have to convey that message.

Thats pretty much accurate, accurately, I dont set much stock in streamers either, they usually have their own agenda, MANY of them use the game as a means to an end, i.e money so you have to take that very much into account. I have a huge soft spot for Zepla, she had had some rotten events happen in her life, but that doesnt mean i dont take her stream comments with a pinch of salt.

And it's fine to disagree with her opinions, but at the same time say why, say what your opinions are, post something more than "I don't need others to tell me my opinion" and nothing else.