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  1. #21
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    make transpose a gcd
    make fire 3 not get potency boosted from astral fire
    make lucid dreaming not work under neither astral fire nor umbral ice
    reduce fire 1 and blizzard 1 potency to 20
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  2. #22
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I mostly want to go back to Shadowbringer.


    Ley-Lines cooldown reduced to 90 seconds:

    The BLM is not a traditional burst damage job. Shoehorning it into the 2 minute meta does not work. You put Ley-Lines down when you can stand in them for a while, not when the 2 minute timer says you have to put them down. With a 90 seconds cooldown you have more wiggle room to still match the 2 minute burst but also can place them when you don't have to move that much.


    Remove Enhanced Flare and Freeze and let Blizzard 2 grant an Umbral Heart:

    That we can switch phases with Fire 2 now is awesome. But they have gone overboard with it. We spend too much time building up our damage and not enough time doing that damage. The AoE rotation is too long.


    And give us Umbral Soul much earlier please. At least on level 60 I want to have access to it.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

  3. #23
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseal View Post
    make transpose a gcd
    make fire 3 not get potency boosted from astral fire
    make lucid dreaming not work under neither astral fire nor umbral ice
    reduce fire 1 and blizzard 1 potency to 20
    Killing off Transpose optimisation entirely - check.
    Killing off Transpose -> Fire III proc optimisation - check.
    Killing off Transpose (Umbral) + Lucid Dreaming optimisation - check.
    Make Lv50 BLM basically unplayable - check.

    Alright Mrs. Shifta Deband, back to the PSO2 playground ~ enough bad takes for the day.
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  4. #24
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I mostly want to go back to Shadowbringer.


    Ley-Lines cooldown reduced to 90 seconds:

    The BLM is not a traditional burst damage job. Shoehorning it into the 2 minute meta does not work. You put Ley-Lines down when you can stand in them for a while, not when the 2 minute timer says you have to put them down. With a 90 seconds cooldown you have more wiggle room to still match the 2 minute burst but also can place them when you don't have to move that much.


    Remove Enhanced Flare and Freeze and let Blizzard 2 grant an Umbral Heart:

    That we can switch phases with Fire 2 now is awesome. But they have gone overboard with it. We spend too much time building up our damage and not enough time doing that damage. The AoE rotation is too long.


    And give us Umbral Soul much earlier please. At least on level 60 I want to have access to it.
    90s Leylines defo understandable if they don't do what I suggested on page 1, yeah. Though I disagree on the AOE changes.

    Making Blizzard II give an Umbral Heart paired with making Fire II worse again by removing Enhanced Flare effect does the following:
    • Freeze is now completely pointless since we are drifting to a Flare-spam rotation so no need for more than 1 Umbral Heart provided by (High) Blizzard II
    • The changes they made to (High) Fire II is being undermined to be a viable AOE spell beyond a phase shifter.
    Here is the thing - you already can sort of limit your Fire II let alone Blizzard II uses by creatively using Thundercloud / Polyglot / Umbral Paradox for instants and using Transpose to phase shift.

    0MP AF3 -> Blizzard II (grants Paradox) -> Freeze (UH3) -> Foul -> Transpose + Triple -> Fire II (for AF3 + Enh. Flare) -> Flare, Flare -> Transpose -> U-Paradox + Lucid -> Freeze -> T3p -> Transpose + Triple -> Fire II -> Flare, Flare -> repeat.
    Triplecast, Swiftcast, Sharpcast (T3p), Manafont and Ether as available, cycle through various instants + Transpose to avoid excess use of Fire II and Blizzard II.

    We don't NEED to make the spells worse for SHB style rotation, we can already just choose to not use them if we insist on less Fire II / Blizzard II. Is it the best AOE damage? Probably not, is it so much worse than doing what we do in EW? Probably not either.

    @Umbral Soul - use Transpose lol.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Killing off Transpose optimisation entirely - check.
    Killing off Transpose -> Fire III proc optimisation - check.
    Killing off Transpose (Umbral) + Lucid Dreaming optimisation - check.
    Make Lv50 BLM basically unplayable - check.

    Alright Mrs. Shifta Deband, back to the PSO2 playground ~ enough bad takes for the day.
    oh and manafont only recovers mana in umbral ice
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseal View Post
    oh and manafont only recovers mana in umbral ice
    Slow down there Satan. ( °.°)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseal View Post
    oh and manafont only recovers mana in umbral ice
    Should we nerf thundercloud and manaward while we're screwing everything else up too? Maybe aetherial manip drains mana for every ilm it moves you?
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    Should we nerf thundercloud and manaward while we're screwing everything else up too? Maybe aetherial manip drains mana for every ilm it moves you?
    oh and scathe is now 585 potency and costs 1600 mp
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  9. #29
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Caseal View Post
    oh and scathe is now 585 potency and costs 1600 mp
    and Fire 4 now resets Astral Fire's timer and has a 2s cast
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Upon teleporting from/to or moving from your leylines normally makes them disappear lel.
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