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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Hi, former Top 100 (Feast S19 Light) here, uhh... what exactly is the reason you posted this? Who are you exactly? Or is this your main?

    Yoshi P said plenty of times he won't and even if there are various ways to keep the prestige of owning the original.

    Yes it shouldn't be a free 1:1 handout, but even stubborn idiots like me realize there can be a middle ground.
    Just stating my opinion, since everyone on this subforum keeps crying about releasing previous t100 rewards again and again, it's that simple.

    And middle ground ? Hmm ? There is no middle ground really, it's people who can play and people who can't play, and the people who can't play always blame wintrading and botting, so why exactly do they need the rewards ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Just stating my opinion, since everyone on this subforum keeps crying about releasing previous t100 rewards again and again, it's that simple.

    And middle ground ? Hmm ? There is no middle ground really, it's people who can play and people who can't play, and the people who can't play always blame wintrading and botting, so why exactly do they need the rewards ?
    The middleground would be differentiating the original 100 per DC from replicas using a variety of methods, such as using a different item quality (blue, purple or maybe gold), calling the rereleased items "replica" or adding the Rank# of the respective player in the name of items. This would at least work well with equipment, but would be difficult with mounts.

    The method of how to obtain them as replicas is also open-ended, so further suggestions are welcome.

    Playing devil's advocate, I can 100% see why the items are desirable. My main and only issue would be rereleasing them as carbon copies so you couldnt tell a genuine top 100 player apart from someone using the copy. Additionally I think items of such demand shouldn't be TOO easy to obtain either, so not moogle tomestone event for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    The middleground would be differentiating the original 100 per DC from replicas using a variety of methods, such as using a different item quality (blue, purple or maybe gold), calling the rereleased items "replica" or adding the Rank# of the respective player in the name of items. This would at least work well with equipment, but would be difficult with mounts.

    The method of how to obtain them as replicas is also open-ended, so further suggestions are welcome.

    Playing devil's advocate, I can 100% see why the items are desirable. My main and only issue would be rereleasing them as carbon copies so you couldnt tell a genuine top 100 player apart from someone using the copy. Additionally I think items of such demand shouldn't be TOO easy to obtain either, so not moogle tomestone event for instance.
    Why is a middle ground needed at all ? If I see a dreadnaught, I know it's 90% likely going to be good PvP player, and 10% someone who just paid for a boost. Whereas the people in this subforum, some of whom have literally posted in this thread, are going to think "hmm ? dreadnaught ? 90% hacker/cheater/booster, 10% legit" because they're jealous.

    Now you want a replica dreadnaught to be given to these people ? After they think it's just from hacking ? Why exactly do they need it, it's just from hacking after all, surely these people don't actually need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Why is a middle ground needed at all ? If I see a dreadnaught, I know it's 90% likely going to be good PvP player, and 10% someone who just paid for a boost. Whereas the people in this subforum, some of whom have literally posted in this thread, are going to think "hmm ? dreadnaught ? 90% hacker/cheater/booster, 10% legit" because they're jealous.

    Now you want a replica dreadnaught to be given to these people ? After they think it's just from hacking ? Why exactly do they need it, it's just from hacking after all, surely these people don't actually need it.
    Honest question, I'm actually curious, do you enjoy seeing people being jealous? Or feeling superior? I'm not quite certain to see the point behind that comment otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Honest question, I'm actually curious, do you enjoy seeing people being jealous? Or feeling superior? I'm not quite certain to see the point behind that comment otherwise.
    Bet 200gil they are masochist and don't actually have any of that stuff and want to remain jealous instead.
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    No, release them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    No, release them all.
    Sure, under which obtainment method?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Sure, under which obtainment method?
    I would say perhaps behind the Series? Maybe add in a new currency that you get at the later stages off the pass that over time can be exchanged for a reward. Not much of a PVP'er so I cannot really comment on the system much haha, and I am in no way saying they should make it easy. It should be something people need to work for and feel proud of getting by the end, but as said elsewhere a middle ground can be found and should be. Whilst I like rare cosmetics and stuff, I am against them being unobtainable via time gates and stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I would say perhaps behind the Series? Maybe add in a new currency that you get at the later stages off the pass that over time can be exchanged for a reward. Not much of a PVP'er so I cannot really comment on the system much haha, and I am in no way saying they should make it easy. It should be something people need to work for and feel proud of getting by the end, but as said elsewhere a middle ground can be found and should be. Whilst I like rare cosmetics and stuff, I am against them being unobtainable via time gates and stuff like that.
    Can see why you say Series, but I'd be hesitant. The series definitely could use some upgrade or at BARE MINIMUM the crystal vendor needs more / better items or an update of such (hello Archfiend armour), however I personally at least would say it is better placed in Ranked - however unlike the meme that is the Augmented Hellhound series, I'd say make a PROPER currency that is available on ALL tiers and those that climb tiers gain more currency (and maybe also make it give some small amount of currency per match won...? you know, like overwatch ranked points).

    I'd be game for more access, but hey might as well encourage people to play Ranked since it is originally from Ranked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I would say perhaps behind the Series? Maybe add in a new currency that you get at the later stages off the pass that over time can be exchanged for a reward. Not much of a PVP'er so I cannot really comment on the system much haha, and I am in no way saying they should make it easy. It should be something people need to work for and feel proud of getting by the end, but as said elsewhere a middle ground can be found and should be. Whilst I like rare cosmetics and stuff, I am against them being unobtainable via time gates and stuff like that.
    You ain't even PvPing why exactly do you feel entitled to the rewards ? It ain't yours, sorry to say.

    Putting it behind the Series is the worst solution, working for a reward =/= being a good player. The Dreadnaught is a sign of a good player, the augmented hellhound weapons ain't because any bad player can get to Diamond by just grinding it out, in fact they can even get to Crystal if they get on a lucky streak and get carried by a top player who's climbing. At least it's slightly harder to get t100 as a bad player.

    Sorry to say, but some rewards should remain exclusive and be the sign of a good player, Capiche ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Except even back then during season 2, you can pay 900 to get to top 100 and hold the position. And a partial refund is available if it fails to deliver. Your response just means you are just too idealistic as well.
    So ? Anyone who is good at PvP don't need to worry about wintrading or cheating, you can get to top 100 very easily as long as you are good. People who complain that they can't get t100 because of wintrading/cheating is actually outing themselves to be bad, very sorry to say ^^
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    Last edited by FenyxRising; 09-04-2023 at 03:16 AM.