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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbows View Post
    This, exactly. Why do you need to be everywhere? You speak of being accepting of other's feelings, so why do they have free reign to poison a thread like this? What about our feelings? The title of the thread isn't "Suggestions and feedback". Even if it were, you can't just make blanketed remarks like "Please make more effort" without facts to substantiate your claims, definitive proof that what you are saying holds merit and needs to be addressed, and it certainly isn't constructive to approach with a negative and offer no positive suggestions.
    Frankly, because Square Enix designed the forums so people could post whatever they feel. Nothing about what they originally said invalidated your feelings. But you sure went out of the way to invalidate theirs. Do you see how selfish that is? They just said something you didn't like in an open forum and you went to destroy them.

    How is that a good person? And worse, how does this make the plight of your thread any better? Now it's just a thread about trying to be positive with someone who will attack you if they don't like what you said. Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Frankly, because Square Enix designed the forums so people could post whatever they feel. Nothing about what they originally said invalidated your feelings. But you sure went out of the way to invalidate theirs. Do you see how selfish that is? They just said something you didn't like in an open forum and you went to destroy them.

    How is that a good person? And worse, how does this make the plight of your thread any better? Now it's just a thread about trying to be positive with someone who will attack you if they don't like what you said. Good stuff.
    I think a term comes to mind here that these forums seem to love but actually applies here. Gaslighting.

    One must be willfully ignorant to try to recast what is going on in this thread as Ath put it above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I think a term comes to mind here that these forums seem to love but actually applies here. Gaslighting.

    One must be willfully ignorant to try to recast what is going on in this thread as Ath put it above.
    The 3rd post could have been ignored. It could have been accepted as just, ok, its a letter tree of people posting their feelings to the developers. Whether it's a full on reminiscence about how someone started or how things where and how things have changed, or how people long for a time past or yearn for better days ahead (regardless of how long/short their letter is). Letters can be sweet, bitter or bittersweet. But it just had to be reacted to and then spiraled. So who really derailed it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    The 3rd post could have been ignored. It could have been accepted as just, ok, its a letter tree of people posting their feelings to the developers. Whether it's a full on reminiscence about how someone started or how things where and how things have changed, or how people long for a time past or yearn for better days ahead (regardless of how long/short their letter is). Letters can be sweet, bitter or bittersweet. But it just had to be reacted to and then spiraled. So who really derailed it?
    The 1000th alt of a poster who said in no uncertain terms that he's just here to create drama. That's who is to blame, and in no uncertain terms it has worked yet again.

    I'm tired of coddling people like this or shifting blame or trying to be understanding. I'm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I think a term comes to mind here that these forums seem to love but actually applies here. Gaslighting.

    One must be willfully ignorant to try to recast what is going on in this thread as Ath put it above.
    I wholeheartedly agree you are gaslighting people into thinking this quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Dear Square Enix,

    Please put in some effort into FF14 again .
    invalidated everyone's feelings on here and that you and co. didn't go out of their way to make sure they felt bad for sharing their thoughts. But you think what you want.
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