What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Theodric]

Stranger of Paradise was actually quite good. It's a shame we were never granted the opportunity to have our character react like Jack to Venat's deceptive schemes and lies.

[Rolder50]

Stranger of Paradise was actually quite good. It's a shame we were never granted the opportunity to have our character react like Jack to Venat's deceptive schemes and lies.

That scene where he just walks away while putting in earbuds would have made the MSQ about 100x better.

[Shinkuno]

Don't know why CBU3 thought the questing formula from XIV was so good they had to completely reuse it in their brand new game.

This also takes away all the excuses of "Quest design is that way cause of spaghetti code" - no, the quest design is this way because CBU3 genuinely thinks their quests are good, so good that they had to take their already below standard mmo quests and put them into a single player game.

[BRVV]

This also takes away all the excuses of "Quest design is that way cause of spaghetti code" - no, the quest design is this way because CBU3 genuinely thinks their quests are good, so good that they had to take their already below standard mmo quests and put them into a single player game.

"Do our laundry!" Quest updated: Press the button on 100 different piles of clothes and then return.

FFXIV quest design is the worst i can imagine... and they think it's good.

[Lauront]

This also takes away all the excuses of "Quest design is that way cause of spaghetti code" - no, the quest design is this way because CBU3 genuinely thinks their quests are good, so good that they had to take their already below standard mmo quests and put them into a single player game.

I wonder if that's why there's this 'sudden' sensitivity on Yoshi's part towards criticism - 16 didn't perform as well as SE expected by all appearances. Seems like they're begging for a repeat, heedless of the lessons they claimed they learned in one of the earlier Rising events:

[Theodric]

I'd just like more visible and meaningful engagement with regular players. Sending out a survey designed to gather some deeper feedback in regards to the future direction of the game would be a reliable metric - because as it stands, FFXIV and FFXVI very much feel like games designed largely for social media engagement and reactions first and foremost.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

FFXIV and FFXVI very much feel like games designed largely for social media engagement and reactions first and foremost.

....because they are Story Driven and Narritive Focused?
Idk, this was a weird read to me, thinking a game is designed for Reactions and Social Media, as if there is no gameplay or videogame there.
Of course, what people like are different, but your post here just sounded kind of weird.

[Theodric]

Some posters do have a habit of - perhaps deliberately - reading into even reasonable posts as if they're some strangely alien take no matter the subject matter, I've found.

I think Endwalker would have been much better if it were written to follow the established logical narrative progression and world building instead of banking on 'feels' that simply don't hold up under scrutiny.

[ReynTime]

Some posters do have a habit of - perhaps deliberately - reading into even reasonable posts as if they're some strangely alien take no matter the subject matter, I've found.

I think Endwalker would have been much better if it were written to follow the established logical narrative progression and world building instead of banking on 'feels' that simply don't hold up under scrutiny.

I think what they're doing is considered a strawman fallacy.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Some posters do have a habit of - perhaps deliberately - reading into even reasonable posts as if they're some strangely alien take no matter the subject

You said

as it stands, FFXIV and FFXVI very much feel like games designed largely for social media engagement and reactions first and foremost.

Thats what Im replying to. Its really not that deep.

I think what they're doing is considered a strawman fallacy.

Its not a Strawman if its exactly what they said.
But its really not that deep, just found that part of the post weird. Moving on.