The Novice Network

[Fyrebrand]

I have never interacted with the Novice Network, but I am bewildered at why it was ever deemed necessary in the first place and I've heard mostly bad things about it. Newbies can just ask for advice in map chat, or google it, or ask on the subreddit. Giving a power structure to random players who can control a chat channel and kick whomever they like doesn't seem like a good idea.

This seems like the kind of naivety that originally brought us "no Vote to Kick function in dungeons" and "skippable cutscenes in MSQ roulette." They seem to just assume people will be polite, civil, and nice.

Every time I see a Burger King crown in a roulette raid/dungeon, I just wonder what the heck they are even doing here. They aren't "mentoring" anyone. They aren't helping or explaining things to any newbies. They're just doing the same thing as anybody else. How are they mentors?

[SannaR]

I have never interacted with the Novice Network, but I am bewildered at why it was ever deemed necessary in the first place and I've heard mostly bad things about it. Newbies can just ask for advice in map chat, or google it, or ask on the subreddit. Giving a power structure to random players who can control a chat channel and kick whomever they like doesn't seem like a good idea.

This seems like the kind of naivety that originally brought us "no Vote to Kick function in dungeons" and "skippable cutscenes in MSQ roulette." They seem to just assume people will be polite, civil, and nice.

Every time I see a Burger King crown in a roulette raid/dungeon, I just wonder what the heck they are even doing here. They aren't "mentoring" anyone. They aren't helping or explaining things to any newbies. They're just doing the same thing as anybody else. How are they mentors?

Was there someone asking for help or an explanation? Did you offer help or an explanation in those runs? If no then why should they speak up? And if you didn't then you're just the same. It doesn't take the crown to give suggestions or an explanation. Yet most runs no one talks outside at the start or the end. A lot of mentors don't show or have the crown turned on due to the stigma it has. A mentor screws up? Free game to mock em. A mentor gives advice in a nice way or an explanation for something? Either is greeted with silence with hints that what they said was ignored or missed or you get the memed "you don't pay my sub" at minimum or the equivalent of a 12yr old playing CoD. Then there are the occasions where a mentor does either of those things only to have a fellow "mentor" troll the one trying to help out. Or the other mentor tells the helpful one to stfu.

The novice network is supposed to be a spot in game where you can get quick, helpful answers to questions or help for a quick que in game. Hopefully without any harassment, power trips, spoilers galore, or vulgar language being used. I'm not meaning swears when I say vulgar language. As I said earlier in this thread some are actually nice and helpful. Others are a dumpster fire floating down a flooded street.

[Toutatis]

Every time I see a Burger King crown in a roulette raid/dungeon, I just wonder what the heck they are even doing here. They aren't "mentoring" anyone. They aren't helping or explaining things to any newbies. They're just doing the same thing as anybody else. How are they mentors?

The mentor roulette is primarily a filling roulette, only occasionally you get an extreme trial or duty where people may require an explanation or a sprout who doesn’t know what a stack marker is. You don’t get to chose where you might end up: it can be any dungeon, guildhest, trial (extreme or regular), normal raid or AR. Just one single roulette for all that.

You get sent whereever someone abandoned a duty (if in progress is checked) or where someone has been waiting to fill a group and you just happen to be the next person who queued. It doesn’t check whether the initial person who queued for a duty is a sprout or if it’s a first time duty, maybe you’ll even end up with other mentors.

Yesterday I queued twice as dps and got thrown in the middle of an already ongoing uneventful regular Barbariccia trial (maybe someone left and they decided to start the fight with 7) and into the very first lvl 10 guildhest. Before yesterday it made me tank lvl 15 Sastasha…what am I suppose to say beside o/ in that? “Follow me and stick them with the pointy end”?

You cannot hide your crown when using mentor roulette.

[tsuchii]

The mentor roulette is primarily a filling roulette, only occasionally you get an extreme trial or duty where people may require an explanation or a sprout who doesn’t know what a stack marker is. You don’t get to chose where you might end up: it can be any dungeon, guildhest, trial (extreme or regular), normal raid or AR. Just one single roulette for all that.

You get sent whereever someone abandoned a duty (if in progress is checked) or where someone has been waiting to fill a group and you just happen to be the next person who queued. It doesn’t check whether the initial person who queued for a duty is a sprout or if it’s a first time duty, maybe you’ll even end up with other mentors.

Yesterday I queued twice as dps and got thrown in the middle of an already ongoing uneventful regular Barbariccia trial (maybe someone left and they decided to start the fight with 7) and into the very first lvl 10 guildhest. Before yesterday it made me tank lvl 15 Sastasha…what am I suppose to say beside o/ in that? “Follow me and stick them with the pointy end”?

You cannot hide your crown when using mentor roulette.

XD

This reminds me when I had an eager sprout asking for Innocence normal mechanics and I just said whack it til it's dead. LOL
There's really no gimmick mechanics, just avoid AOEs on that trial. LOL