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    JiraTyanu's Avatar
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    Asari Holwen
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    The Coil's Situation

    So by now yall know me as the person complaining about healers not healing enough or the novice network troll if you come from Mateus. (Sorry not sorry)


    But there is something else I want to bring up that's been annoying me to no end and I legitimately do not see a reason why it cannot be implemented.

    Coils Turn 1 through Turn 13 into the normal raid roulette

    I mean that sentence there just about tells you everything I want, but to go into a bit further detail for those wanting justification. Coils are not much harder than most raids these days being released as normal mode, if you go back and you redo them? They are just as unforgiving as ones such as Omega normal or even abyssos normal.

    I do not see what the hard time would be in adding these raids to the roulette and I am honestly kinda sad that this bit of content has been abandoned to the point that when players ask about it in the novice network? the answer ahem.. "Just go unsync it." Is the go to answer..

    Why doesn't SE just do something about it instead? This isn't the first time I mentioned this either. I want coils to return, the story was cool! Don't leave it abandoned!
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    They're not in the roulette because they are the savage of ARR. You would be synced to lv 50 and most people these days don't even know how to do a lot of the mechanics. Turn 3 is a jumping puzzle. They also have adds that for the most part you can't skip as they are on the way to the boss. Turn 8's map can be a bit hard to get around. If you think trying to get someone to adapt and take a different spot for a mechanic is hard now and that the responsibility for mechanics in coils would be easier then jokes on you. Even when Final Coils was fresh and people were trying to play catch up trying to get people to learn how to do the towers in T8, do renards in T7, to know the timing for how to cheese divebombs in T5. Or you know remember if it's Ice in this time with a bunch of randoms you have a lot more faith than me. People still get eaten by carbuncle, knocked off the arena while fighting Kefka and not deal with Faust in A9.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Coil is savage content.



    You aren't doing it in df, not to the level you are used to with other normal raids.


    You say they aren't that much harder, but have you done them synced with randoms? Especially turn 5, all of second coil, and all of final coil?





    We can't even get players to get into stack mechanics sometimes and you expect them to do conflag, dive bombs, the tethers in t11, wild charge in t10.



    Divebombs and ice/fire in t9, etc, etc
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 08-30-2023 at 12:27 AM.

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    I know I'm taking the bait here, but I'm sure some players have contemplated this unironically.

    Some of the Coils haven't aged well, by which I mean they're now easier than a lot of normal content in the game. On the other hand, some of them would still absolutely roll your average group of randos. Adding them to the roulette seems... unwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Coil is savage content.



    You aren't doing it in df, not to the level you are used to with other normal raids.


    You say they aren't that much harder, but have you done them synced with randoms? Especially turn 5, all of second coil, and all of final coil?





    We can't even get players to get into stack mechanics sometimes and you expect them to do conflag, dive bombs, the tethers in t11, wild charge in t10.



    Divebombs and ice/fire in t9, etc, etc
    Twintania was a pain in ARR. I remember doing that one with random people. That convinced me NOT to proceed any further at the time. Considering that it took me almost a month to clear Titan HM on release because players couldn't even handle THAT...yeah...fun times, fun times.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 08-30-2023 at 01:52 AM.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Twintania was a pain in ARR. I remember doing that one with random people. That convinced me NOT to proceed any further at the time. Considering that it took me almost a month to clear Titan HM on release because players couldn't even handle THAT...yeah...
    You remember when just to survive the limit break everyone (including healers) had to meld +vit/use +vit jewelry? Good times. I think that was Titan…
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    You remember when just to survive the limit break everyone (including healers) had to meld +vit/use +vit jewelry? Good times. I think that was Titan…
    I honestly don't remember that, but I'm not saying it didn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I honestly don't remember that, but I'm not saying it didn't happen.
    This was way back when Darklight was the best gear and the target was to have like…3,200 hp or die screaming. Yeah….
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    turn 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Was that when she was in the cage about to be eaten by alligators or when she was about to be eaten by giant frogs?
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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