You need to give up on XI-2

[Tigercub]

Agree with Wevlum. I wish people would stop rejecting everything FFXI just because it's from FFXI. Hardly anybody is looking to make this FFXI-2. We just don't need to reinvent the wheel; a lot of the fail parts of this game can be improved quickly and efficiently by SE drawing on their previous experience.

Tanaka was a rebel without a cause. He tried to make everything different, and the result was just that everything was a pain in the ass. There's a reason why some things are set in stone. In a lot of cases it's better to improve on existing ideas that work than to just make crap up as you go.

[Yves]

This is the same debate that occurs on a weekly basis. Maybe it's time to shut down the forums since a majority of ideas are constantly recycling and most things have been laid out via the roadmap. Maybe it's just time for a comment dropbox...

[ChiefCurrahee]

I think this team should scrap any fresh, new, Innovative idea they have for XIV and just port XI over to the ver 2.0 XIV engine.

Why? Just to spite you OP.

What was wrong with the "If you want FFXI go play XI" thread about 6 posts down from yours?

Just for the record. I don't want a carbon copy of XI, but I do want some features from XI.
like awesome open world endgame zones, like Sky/Sea. I'm not saying I want those locations, but i want to see similar mechanics, Parties hunting for pop items and NMs to spawn larger/harder NM to get items to spawn even larger/harder NMs to finally pop the {Mega Boss} I want content that satifies an enitre LS, not just 8 people at a time.

I want the sence of immediate danger the garlean empire poses on Eorzea, I want defend/attack opperations ala Besieged or campaign.
I want to see group oriented battles the help progress the story line

Do I want 21-24 hr competative HNM pops where for 3 hours you just stare at a wall waiting for the spawn? NO!
Do I want the only progression of my character to come from teamign up with other people? NO!
Do I want to carry 20 different pieces of gear to swap around depending on what spell i'm casting? NO!

So get your righteous ass off your high horse and look at the disparity of content FFXIV has compaired to the NA launch of FFXI, or any other MMO at launch.

XIV had the opportuniy to take things that were good and enjoyable from XI and improve upon it. Thats where they failed. They took only the character models from XI and nothing else. They ended up with a pile of garbage, Now we're 18 months later, the team is still stuggling to create content that is worthwhile and meaningful.

I only hope Ver 2.0 includes more ideas from XI than building upon failed aspects of XIV.

[Jinko]

I'm saying "don't be lazy and just try to come up with your own ideas and help make this game what XIV should have been and not a shadow of the past."
statements like this need to stop, that's whats wrong with 14, everyone thinking they need to fix it instead of just playing the game.

I see, well the devs have asked for our feedback and the game has taken a turn for the better because of that.

I do agree that there is a point where you can make a suggestion and leave it up to the developers, there is a lot of threads that sound like "look at me, my idea is the best" on these forums, but everyone likes to think their idea is the best even if it is copied from FF11 or another game.

This is the same debate that occurs on a weekly basis. Maybe it's time to shut down the forums since a majority of ideas are constantly recycling and most things have been laid out via the roadmap. Maybe it's just time for a comment dropbox...

I laughed because its kind of true.

All we need is a bi monthly players poll and we're all set.

[Majidah]

I love it when strangers tell me what I have to do. Kudos to you man. Lovely thread. And treating the reader as if he was twelve years old? Genius.

[Onidemon]

Alerith is right, how many times can people make the same F8cking thread over and over again. I guess alot nvm

Well as many times as pple asking for gear swap and other crappy features from XI. Xi fan boys are way too stuborn. Yes XI had good feature I'm not denying it. Wow had even better features but I don't XiV to be either of them. Also you need to realize that even if XI had a solution to a certain problem it doesn't mean it is the best way to do things. A lot of pple talk and have never played another mmo nor another FF game for that matter other then Xi
You need to get out of your comfort zone and accept change as a good thing.

[StateAlchemist]

I love it when strangers tell me what I have to do. Kudos to you man. Lovely thread. And treating the reader as if he was twelve years old? Genius.

I love it when people reply to threads like this with a funny picture and a comment pointing out the obvious ! Epic!
I do agree though.

[Majidah]

I love it when people reply to threads like this with a funny picture and a comment pointing out the obvious ! Epic!

I'm sorry for overestimating you man. Its clear to me now that certain people need for a comment to be blunt and not subtle or ironic. So here, I'll spell out for you what a person with a high school degree would have been able to read between the lines:

"I will not stand for some stranger to tell me what to do. The whole bit trying to sympathize with the reader? That's hilarious and infuriating. Every time someone makes a thread imposing their view on top of others' it makes me want to punch said person in the teeth."

And the picture was placed to bring more attention from the dumb masses into a short comment that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Thanks for proving a point.

[Onidemon]

I'm sorry for overestimating you man. Its clear to me now that certain people need for a comment to be blunt and not subtle or ironic. So here, I'll spell out for you what a person with a high school degree would have been able to read between the lines:

"I will not stand for some stranger to tell me what to do. The whole bit trying to sympathize with the reader? That's hilarious and infuriating. Every time someone makes a thread imposing their view on top of others' it makes me want to punch said person in the teeth."

And the picture was placed to bring more attention from the dumb masses into a short comment that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. Thanks for proving a point.

Telling you, you need to give up on a fantasy S-E themselves are not supporting is making you this mad? Says a lot about you and proves my point about XI fanboys. Thanks!

[Fear]

Just for the record. I don't want a carbon copy of XI, but I do want some features from XI.
like awesome open world endgame zones, like Sky/Sea. I'm not saying I want those locations, but i want to see similar mechanics, Parties hunting for pop items and NMs to spawn larger/harder NM to get items to spawn even larger/harder NMs to finally pop the {Mega Boss} I want content that satifies an enitre LS, not just 8 people at a time.

This says it all really, FFXIV should have copied the basic systems from FFXI (Search, AH etc.) in the beginning and made the 1st kinda content a fresh idea but with similar mechanics to FFXI's system (Sky/Sea or Campaign/Beseidge).

No one would want FFXI-2 whats the point? but we do want and expect SE to take their old games content and ideas as a guideline of what people want/enjoy and expect and try to do things the right way not ignore all past experience and try to do something completely new to the entire game