The Single Most powerful *thing* in FFXIV?

[Connor]

Pretty sure it’d be something stupid like Godbert or Julyan I’m afraid, lol. Or - ugh - Zenos * sick face emoji * lol

Wouldn’t Dynamis-Powered Meteion be a serious contender? It practically destroyed an entire universe by causing The Final Days, since based on what Pupu says during the Hildibrand quests even distant planets were heavily affected. I can’t think of any other entity in FFXIV that has power/influence on such a cosmic scale (again, besides something stupid like Godbert or Tataru lol).

Though, part of that reach was because Meteion isn’t a single entity but a collective spread across the cosmos, so it’s not exactly the ‘single most powerful entity’ when it’s abilities are based on a shared/collective consciousness

[Carin-Eri]

Pretty sure it’d be something stupid like Godbert or Julyan I’m afraid, lol. Or - ugh - Zenos * sick face emoji * lol

Wouldn’t Dynamis-Powered Meteion be a serious contender? It practically destroyed an entire universe by causing The Final Days, since based on what Pupu says during the Hildibrand quests even distant planets were heavily affected. I can’t think of any other entity in FFXIV that has power/influence on such a cosmic scale (again, besides something stupid like Godbert or Tataru lol).

Though, part of that reach was because Meteion isn’t a single entity but a collective spread across the cosmos, so it’s not exactly the ‘single most powerful entity’ when it’s abilities are based on a shared/collective consciousness

Hate to say it, but Zenos - whilst definitely not top of the list - probably would be on the list.

I mean, in that final dual with him he was using Shinryu attacks, arguably even more effectively than Shinryu itself did (he was essentially Shinryu in Garlean form). And thanks to that, he almost killed the Warrior of Light - and probably would've if not for the residual dynamis heals we were able to access during the fight.

[UkcsAlias]

Pretty sure it’d be something stupid like Godbert or Julyan I’m afraid, lol. Or - ugh - Zenos * sick face emoji * lol

If you finished the questline you know they are not as invulnerable as they appear. They do still have a weakness. And although it might be hard to trigger that weakness, its surely not impossible.

Zenos on that is diffirent since he used the power through a catalist (himself) and charged it with some strong beings. Its not that diffirent to how ultima was being casted. And that also instantly makes a clear limit.

Zenos had only 1 desire to keep himself alive, which if that desire was gone (you died), he would instantly die and be absorbed through dynamis. Dynamis is on that (because of being pure power) excessively strong. But it suffers from 1 weakness: hope is enough to charge up dynamis (and therefor take it away). You only need 1 thing strong enough (similar to meteon) to already weaken her enough.

The problem is we dont know what zodiark would do when completed. It surely takes all the aether away from the planet, but we dont know what it will do in space. Zodiark was powerfull enough to block the effects from dynamis even in an incompleted state. But weak at the other aether.

[Cleretic]

Wouldn’t Dynamis-Powered Meteion be a serious contender? It practically destroyed an entire universe by causing The Final Days, since based on what Pupu says during the Hildibrand quests even distant planets were heavily affected. I can’t think of any other entity in FFXIV that has power/influence on such a cosmic scale (again, besides something stupid like Godbert or Tataru lol).

As I mentioned, I don't know if that actually counts if we're talking raw 'strongest thing around'. Not only is there the hive mind/gestalt fused entity situation to dissect, but Meteion caused all that destruction by way of being the only thing using dynamis in the way she was, which it turns out basically nothing else in the universe could handle. In Pokemon terms, that'd be like crediting Tyranitar as an objectively stronger Pokemon than Mewtwo because it's got a type advantage.

(for curious non-Pokemon-knowers: Tyranitar is objectively weaker than Mewtwo in nearly every way, but has occasionally been a check to it competitively for exactly that type advantage situation.)

I think that while Endwalker introduces a lot of potential new contenders, none of them necessarily win 'strongest thing ever in the game setting'; the contenders are still probably Midgardsormr, pre-sundering Zodiark, and Alexander from left field. Endwalker does influence 'strongest thing in the game setting right now', but mostly by knocking contenders out: there's no Zodiark or Hydaelyn, every single Ancient/Ascian is off the table (although I don't think they were ever winning), Omega's now confirmably depowered in a similar way to Midgardsormr and is shown to be just one of a mechanized army. Again, Zeromus might be winning the 'strongest right now' contest, and we probably shouldn't count the Twelve out just yet, but the all-time gold trophy probably belongs to the same thing... whatever that thing is.

EDIT: For what it's worth, the Hildibrand revelations likely do put Godbert and Hildibrand much higher than we would've estimated them previously, but I don't think they're capable of reaching the top ten. They're probably in, like, the thirties somewhere; above all the regular sundered humans, below everything that's in some way more.