More good glams and emotes on the shop

[Supersnow845]

What does that have to do with time between patches? I'm simply saying having to wait x amount of time for patch doesn't bother me. If anything it gives me time to do and complete other stuff in the game or play other games.

Because the content drought is becoming longer and longer between patches, patches are getting less and less content and they fill the gaps with overpriced mogstation items that barely function on their own designed characters

People shouldn’t be “fine” with less content because square certainly isn’t reducing the sub cost for releasing nothing of value on the last 2 years and why people think paying a sub so you can play other games is a good thing I’ll never know

[Iscah]

Because the content drought is becoming longer and longer between patches, patches are getting less and less content and they fill the gaps with overpriced mogstation items that barely function on their own designed characters

I don't feel that imbalance. Maybe because I've got a few characters, but I'm still collecting in-game gear for them. Mog Station is not necessary, and doesn't feel like it's "filling a content gap" at all. I do buy things sometimes to complete an outfit, but they're not "content".

If I got to the point where I had nothing left to do but hang out waiting for a new outfit to be released, that's the point where I'd be off on one of those fabled breaks doing something else until new actual content arrives here.

[Supersnow845]

I don't feel that imbalance. Maybe because I've got a few characters, but I'm still collecting in-game gear for them. Mog Station is not necessary, and doesn't feel like it's "filling a content gap" at all. I do buy things sometimes to complete an outfit, but they're not "content".

If I got to the point where I had nothing left to do but hang out waiting for a new outfit to be released, that's the point where I'd be off on one of those fabled breaks doing something else until new actual content arrives here.

So you have stuff to do because you run alts

Do you not see the problem here

[Iscah]

So you have stuff to do because you run alts

Do you not see the problem here

To be honest, I still haven't gotten around to doing everything on my main either.

My point remains: even if I only had the one character and got through everything I wanted to do, I'd be off playing something else until there is more gameplay content available here.

Paid outfits are not content in and of themselves. They augment your experience of the game while you are playing it, but they do not provide a reason to play it. One is not being substituted for the other.

If they were putting quests or battles as paid content, that would be a different argument.

[Supersnow845]

To be honest, I still haven't gotten around to doing everything on my main either.

My point remains: even if I only had the one character and got through everything I wanted to do, I'd be off playing something else until there is more gameplay content available here.

Paid outfits are not content in and of themselves. They augment your experience of the game while you are playing it, but they do not provide a reason to play it. One is not being substituted for the other.

If they were putting quests or battles as paid content, that would be a different argument.

The problem is misuse of resources

In this particular case it’s an old Korean glam but in general when people are begging for new content because the content patches are slower than a snail releasing new mogstation glams (even if different teams work on them) in a game we already pay for just isn’t a good look at all

[Iscah]

In this particular case it’s an old Korean glam but in general when people are begging for new content because the content patches are slower than a snail releasing new mogstation glams (even if different teams work on them) in a game we already pay for just isn’t a good look at all

I just don't see that equivalence. The game is the game; Mog Station is like a supporting business off to the side of it, and anything released there makes me glance at it for a moment and then go back to what I was doing, whether it's playing this game or something else.

[Rolder50]

I just don't see that equivalence. The game is the game; Mog Station is like a supporting business off to the side of it, and anything released there makes me glance at it for a moment and then go back to what I was doing, whether it's playing this game or something else.

They could, yknow, add the items into the game as a reward from some event, or maybe from the Gold Saucer. But then they wouldn't make any extra money off it.

[Theodric]

If the cash shop is being updated more regularly than the actual game then I think that's a clear issue in itself. One of the most common complaints in regards to the game has been the lack of content with staying power and meaningful rewards. FFXIV has a lot of focus on optional merchandise in general, even putting aside the cash shop itself. They plan months ahead and have a lot of merchandise on the Square Enix store already on waiting lists.

It's something I don't really see with other MMO's.

As it stands, we're looking at almost a year until Dawntrail launches and the established trend for 'meaty' patch content has been for it to come later on in the patch cycle, meaning that those of us waiting for something along the lines of Bozja and Eureka are very likely looking at an almost two year wait assuming we even get any at all as part of Dawntrail.

[Jojoya]

If the cash shop is being updated more regularly than the actual game then I think that's a clear issue in itself. One of the most common complaints in regards to the game has been the lack of content with staying power and meaningful rewards. FFXIV has a lot of focus on optional merchandise in general, even putting aside the cash shop itself. They plan months ahead and have a lot of merchandise on the Square Enix store already on waiting lists.

Making a few glamour sets, a mount and an emote takes far less time than producing hours of content and dozens if not hundreds of items to go with that content, especially when those making the former have no responsibilities for helping with the latter. It doesn't hurt that the KR cash shop team is getting paid by the KR game publisher to create the items.

Create a list of all the optional items in the cash shop and it's not going to come close to the number of items in game even if you do a release date comparison. It's really easy to forget what we are getting in game when it doesn't get any special attention outside of maybe a quick peek at concept art during a Live Letter while the items going to the cash shop get datamined and shared by the dataminers through social media far in advance of their JP/NA/EU release not to mention the Lodestone post announcing the sale.

Square Enix is engaging in capitalism. Most of us posting here on the EN forums live in capitalist countries and earn our income because of capitalism. It makes the complaints about the cash shop look somewhat silly, especially considering I doubt there is MMO of any type out there lacking a cash shop these days.

As I said to Stormpeaks earlier, as long as there are people willing to spend the money to get the extras to enjoy in game there will be cash shops. If you can find some way to get people to stop buying off the cash shop, maybe games will stop putting items there. Otherwise it's just a losing battle.

As the saying goes, we have to learn to pick our battles. I'd rather fight a battle I have a chance at winning than one that is already lost.

Those are in the game already. The catsuits are the Late Allagan melee gear and their other uniform is the mage gear.

Thanks for the info. I don't PvP so that's how I missed them.

[Krokov]

Because the content drought is becoming longer and longer between patches, patches are getting less and less content and they fill the gaps with overpriced mogstation items that barely function on their own designed characters

People shouldn’t be “fine” with less content because square certainly isn’t reducing the sub cost for releasing nothing of value on the last 2 years and why people think paying a sub so you can play other games is a good thing I’ll never know

Different strokes I guess, as said it doesn't bother me personally I know there's stuff I can do, content that's available if I so chose. New content is great granted, but should I be bothered cause I'm not getting it in this time that I want it?, I could be disappointed by that but since I have options available too me it is not a big thing, if you will, for me.