Fighting Desperately...

[Lux_Rayna]

Ever feel like 2.0 is a carrot being dangled from a fishing line in front of your donkey face? Two words: "HEE HAW!!!" You guys wait for it. I've got better things to do than waste my time hoping and dreaming only to face a 50/50 chance of completely wasting my time for what might very turn out to be mediocre at best.

2.0 was never a carrot on a stick....ppl are just stupid. It was clearly stated they are remaking the game so that it is closer to the vision Yoshida had for it. More or less its a different game, this is just scrapped junk we get to play so our time and efforts weren't totally wasted. Also, they get funding to help cut down on their losses. The only connection 2.0 has to this game is some concepts, battle mechanics, and lore/story to a *degree*. As such ppl just need to treat it as a different game, and not a patch (which is what ppl are treating it as right now, a big patch).

They said pay or don't, the benefit of paying is that all your work will get transferred over to the new game, and there will be a connecting story so that ppl who *care* about story and lore are not alienated and left trying to explain why their character is suddenly in a new game. Its nothing like a carrot on a stick, you are just waiting for the release of a new game, which is exactly what 2.0 is, a new game...not a patch.

[Cendres]

2.0 was never a carrot on a stick....ppl are just stupid. It was clearly stated they are remaking the game so that it is closer to the vision Yoshida had for it. More or less its a different game, this is just scrapped junk we get to play so our time and efforts weren't totally wasted. Also, they get funding to help cut down on their losses. The only connection 2.0 has to this game is some concepts, battle mechanics, and lore/story to a *degree*. As such ppl just need to treat it as a different game, and not a patch (which is what ppl are treating it as right now, a big patch).

They said pay or don't, the benefit of paying is that all your work will get transferred over to the new game, and there will be a connecting story so that ppl who *care* about story and lore are not alienated and left trying to explain why their character is suddenly in a new game. Its nothing like a carrot on a stick, you are just waiting for the release of a new game, which is exactly what 2.0 is, a new game...not a patch.

This is the best explanation of the 2.0 that I've seen, well said. *claps*

[Xoo]

Like posting how bad the game is?

Yep. It's just that bad. Kind of like a negative appreciation post. Think of it as that monster turd you just dropped and can't help but tell all your friends about. Except in this case, it is a little different; All your friends were in the toilet with you...

2.0 was never a carrot on a stick....ppl are just stupid. It was clearly stated they are remaking the game so that it is closer to the vision Yoshida had for it. More or less its a different game, this is just scrapped junk we get to play so our time and efforts weren't totally wasted. Also, they get funding to help cut down on their losses. The only connection 2.0 has to this game is some concepts, battle mechanics, and lore/story to a *degree*. As such ppl just need to treat it as a different game, and not a patch (which is what ppl are treating it as right now, a big patch).

They said pay or don't, the benefit of paying is that all your work will get transferred over to the new game, and there will be a connecting story so that ppl who *care* about story and lore are not alienated and left trying to explain why their character is suddenly in a new game. Its nothing like a carrot on a stick, you are just waiting for the release of a new game, which is exactly what 2.0 is, a new game...not a patch.

Fine, fine points you have there.

[Pim-ptarutaruOdin]

Lol, let me get this straight. Levelling up is difficult now? to be honest, i'd rather spam moogle 200 times than going back to FFXI's levelling pace. GOD FIGHTING CRAB FOR 5MIN WAS SO MUCH FUN.

You can also complete AF quest fine in 2 days at FFXI considerin you have help. You won't be able to complete all AF quest in 2 days on FFXIV too if you do not have any help.

You have an unique view of difficulty. Your view might be distorted because of Utsusemi.

you do know ffxi you can take 1-99 in a day now right? they took the grind out of ffxi....

[Enfarious]

I see what you are getting at, and you are partially right.

Final Fantasy XI - Release Date (NA) November, 2002.
Rize of the Zilart (NA) Oct. 28, 2003.
Chains of Promathia (NA) 2004

In 2 years we had 2 full expansion packs. The Zilart/CoP Storyline. Advanced Jobs. Sky/Sea. Ground Kings. So much content. This timeline is all in 2 years. Compare that to XIV.

We are getting to the 2 year mark in XIV, and we have seen nothing even close to the scale of something comparable to RoZ/CoP.

Your leaving out the part well before NA release, from JP release on.

[TheVedis]

Your leaving out the part well before NA release, from JP release on.

in that case his release dates are odd
since zilart shipped with the NA release....

[Enfarious]

in that case his release dates are odd
since zilart shipped with the NA release....

With NA yes, but JP had FFXI in it's base state for a year and a half or so before it was released in NA, which is how it was released here w/ Zilart.

[TheVedis]

With NA yes, but JP had FFXI in it's base state for a year and a half or so before it was released in NA, which is how it was released here w/ Zilart.

know i played it since jp release, but my point was the dates mr "11 is awesome and 14 sucks" up there posted had the na classic and zilart releases a year apart also

[Sephrick]

Ever feel like 2.0 is a carrot being dangled from a fishing line in front of your donkey face? Two words: "HEE HAW!!!" You guys wait for it. I've got better things to do than waste my time hoping and dreaming only to face a 50/50 chance of completely wasting my time for what might very turn out to be mediocre at best.

It's not like SE wasn't upfront about it.

They need a new game engine and server structure to make the game they want to. Till then they're giving us what they can despite the fact they're going to delete most of it while developing a whole new game in tandem.

You're right, SE is making a gamble and taking some risks. But 2.0 is sink or swim so they've really got to impress people if they're going to turn this game around.

[Xoo]

It's not like SE wasn't upfront about it.

They need a new game engine and server structure to make the game they want to. Till then they're giving us what they can despite the fact they're going to delete most of it while developing a whole new game in tandem.

You're right, SE is making a gamble and taking some risks. But 2.0 is sink or swim so they've really got to impress people if they're going to turn this game around.

It's not like they could deny it either.