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    The problem with this thread is the word "legitimate". Who can define what's a legit reason? Obviously not the OP nor the anti-gear swapping crowd, since based on the title, the thread started with bias already. What others think of as legit may not be for the OP and vice versa, thus the thread will just go in circles.

    1. Someone propose a reason and thinks it's legit.
    2. Someone thinks it's not.
    3. Repeat step 1 and 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    Ohhh I get it... you were able to understand my post.. instead of rebuts you just tear down the grammatical errors made in the post. What is it that they call it in debate teams? A Red Herring?

    Awesome!~
    Didn't debate your points, said if you want to be an ass, do it properly. I even provided a good example of how to do this. I made my points on gear swap previously in other posts. Also you shouldn't ask for legit reasons as someone has pointed out recently, but dismiss everyone who doesn't agree with you. If you were just trollin everyone then grats it worked, however, I've seen many LEGIT REASONS in here already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Yes, expecting people to hand things out because you're you and deserve getting everything you want for 3,000 gil is totally being sensible.
    Shyeah, and you sit there and tell me you're fine paying a 97% mark-up on your next Lv40 weapon. Please, stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inaaca View Post
    Calm down buddy. I'm talking about FFXIV, not FFXI.

    Gear swapping doesn't define the MMO genre just because a lot of other MMOs utilize it. What does it matter what other MMOs do? This is FFXIV.

    What other MMOs do doesn't change the fact that SE is against implementing gear swapping mid combat into FFXIV. In fact, it probably only strengthens SE's resolve to do something a little more unique.
    I'm calm.. I just want to make sure everyone can easily read that this has nothing to do with FFXI, rather that it is an essential part of the RPG genre.

    It is you anti-FFXI people who have to have things differently just because FFXI had it.. that's the problem with this game.. SE attempted to evolve the RPG genre with their "unique" ideas in FFXIV... which horrifically killed the sales of this game, took me 1 year to even consider buying the game.

    The best way I can explain this game.. it is a retard with missing genes and the genes that do exist a portion of them are mutated to the point of uselessness.

    And instead of letting it die naturally, you have it hooked up to a respirator... parts of this game needs to die.. parts of this game needs to change, and there are parts of the RPG "DNA", if you will, that this game lacks and NEEDS in order to survive or even be considered an RPG for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Shyeah, and you sit there and tell me you're fine paying a 97% mark-up on your next Lv40 weapon. Please, stop it.
    I paid 500k for my level 48 weapon when it came out because I didn't have the craft high enough and had no intention of grinding it up at the time. If you want something, but don't want to put the effort in to make it yourself, then don't complain when you have to pay for it.

    (Btw, it's worth like 50k now so I paid 10x on mark-up.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    there are parts of the RPG genre that this game lacks and NEEDS in order to survive or even be considered an RPG for that matter.
    I agree with this statement, but this is not one of those things. Gear swap has jackshit to do with a game bein RPG.
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    There should be a system simalar to gear swapping for this reason..

    without gear swapping ALOT of the equipment in this game is useless, and everytime new content is released more and more equipment will become useless.. and because of this people will allways just do the content that drops the best equipment and nothing else.

    with gear swaps people will do content that drops gear that would otherwise be outclassed and would only be usefull in a gear swap.

    like others have stated the materia system should be able to provide somekind of solution.

    and btw, if someone is a douche it isnt because of gear swaps lol!!

    gear swapping was one of the best aspects of FFXI endgame. it was a system in its self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    I'm calm.. I just want to make sure everyone can easily read that this has nothing to do with FFXI, rather that it is an essential part of the RPG genre.

    It is you anti-FFXI people who have to have things differently just because FFXI had it.. that's the problem with this game.. SE attempted to evolve the RPG genre with their "unique" ideas in FFXIV... which horrifically killed the sales of this game, took me 1 year to even consider buying the game.

    The best way I can explain this game.. it is a retard with missing genes and the genes that do exist a portion of them are mutated to the point of uselessness.

    And instead of letting it die naturally, you have it hooked up to a respirator... parts of this game needs to die.. parts of this game needs to change, and there are parts of the RPG "DNA", if you will, that this game lacks and NEEDS in order to survive or even be considered an RPG for that matter.
    Ok so wait, the way to change how RPGs are made is to incorporate what every other RPG has and the way to save the MMO genre is to keep it exactly the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    I agree with this statement, but this is not one of those things. Gear swap has jackshit to do with a game bein RPG.
    Then lets just get rid of stats altogether. What's the point if you can't utilize them appropriately for situations. Like I said... there's nothing dynamic about NOT having gear swapping. Better yet lets not called it gear swapping, just call it, "stat swapping".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    I paid 500k for my level 48 weapon when it came out because I didn't have the craft high enough and had no intention of grinding it up at the time. If you want something, but don't want to put the effort in to make it yourself, then don't complain when you have to pay for it.

    (Btw, it's worth like 50k now so I paid 10x on mark-up.)
    I won't complain because I'm not dumb enough to pay that much for a basic weapon.
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