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  1. #71
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    Koros's Avatar
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    Koros Drakon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    I don't blame them for being envious of my friend. Default is a lovely person, when you're not busy insulting her for existing, or sending people to message my FC members ingame. I welcome having an entourage bump topics I'm interested in straight to the top, and then keep them there.
    remember to report brigading
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  2. #72
    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    I don't blame them for being envious of my friend. Default is a lovely person, when you're not busy insulting her for existing, or sending people to message my FC members ingame. I welcome having an entourage bump topics I'm interested in straight to the top, and then keep them there.
    So you're admitting to brigading then. I don't think anyone is envious of you having a friend. I have plenty of friends myself, but even when I show them threads on the forums, I don't get them to come in to back me up and parrot my points. Why? Because that's cringe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    remember to report brigading
    It has been done.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 08-07-2023 at 01:04 PM.

  3. #73
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It does seem longer. SE did say that they were also taking breaks for holidays, but they aren't very clear about which holidays and when.
    With patch cycles this long, every patch will have some sort of holiday in there somewhere. Hence, they always have an excuse!
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  4. #74
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    The reason given for the widening of the patch cycle is there being more jobs and races than when the game started; they have more equipment to tailor for different body types.
    I feel like why should gameplay content be held up for fashion? Just reuse old gear designs with slight alterations more often to keep things moving. The fashion choices are huge at this point anyway.

    I'll use PSO2:NGS again as an example of different design philosophies. They just dropped a new content type with no fanfare on a minor patch, made completely out of old assets with old enemies, but it's a totally new kind of endgame activity that's good enough to be our new daily routine.

    You spawn into an area divided into many different rooms, each one assigned a different buff reward. You need to decide which buffs you want to prioritize and clear those rooms before the time runs out. Some rooms have waves of enemies, some have puzzles, some have bosses. Once the timer is over, you carry over any buffs you managed to bank into the next phase where you fight a challenging boss under certain conditions, again with a strict time limit.

    Each day the boss cycles to a different one and different restrictions on players like -75% max HP. You earn a new kind of gear upgrade item, and a rare chance of a powerful weapon drop. It's interesting and put together with low resource cost, a new gameplay type made of old assets.

    It's the polar opposite of FF XIV dungeons that have a high resource cost with beautiful new art, new enemies, new music, but completely cookie-cutter gameplay that adds nothing new, basically a high effort reskin of the last 50 dungeons we got.
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  5. #75
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    ^the funny thing is 14 does have one raid that does this exact thing, T2, and T2 before we learned we could cheese it was a damn well designed fight (most of coils besides 3, 4 and 5 were fight me)

    The thing that really makes me sad about this game is basically every time someone suggests something another MMO has or something they wish 14 had 99 times out of 100 it’s something 14 used to have and removed (or made completely redundant a la T2 because even MINE that fight is a joke now)
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  6. #76
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    The reason given for the widening of the patch cycle is there being more jobs and races than when the game started; they have more equipment to tailor for different body types.
    I highly doubt, that more jobs and races is so time consuming, that it slows down the patch cycles significantly. Because the development tools are also getting better und many things can be done automaticly.



    Cheers
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  7. #77
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    I highly doubt, that more jobs and races is so time consuming, that it slows down the patch cycles significantly. Because the development tools are also getting better und many things can be done automaticly.



    Cheers
    Not to mention like i stated previously, new jobs don’t seem to have nearly as much effort put into them as in the last. Samurai and Red mage released in SB with all level 50/60/70 primal weapons and unique ultimate weapon models. Dancer and Gunbreaker got 0 primal weapons on release and still don’t have the 50/60/70 ones AND their ultimate models were just either reused shire weapon for dancer and reused dungeon weapon for gunbreaker. Sage and Reaper also have no primal weapons outside of the knights of the round one.
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  8. #78
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I find it hard to believe EW has way more content than SB. SB had hard mode dungeons, 2 Ultimates, 4 relic zones, a relic dungeon, 2 extra trials(yojimbo and rathalos), a new housing district, relic armor, primal weapons for the new jobs(Both ShB and EW didn’t even give the new jobs previous primal weapons), diving, spear fishing, the list goes on.
    Don't forget that they introduced Bluemage and the Glamour Dresser in Stormblood as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    The reason given for the widening of the patch cycle is there being more jobs and races than when the game started; they have more equipment to tailor for different body types.
    I feel like why should gameplay content be held up for fashion? Just reuse old gear designs with slight alterations more often to keep things moving. The fashion choices are huge at this point anyway.
    This is also complete nonsense that needs correction every time I see it.
    We know that all gear is designed for roughly 5 different body types (in extremely rare cases for more), those being Lalafell, male Midlander, male Highlander, female Midlander and male Roegadyn, the rest is done through bone scaling.
    Every female character, except Lalafell, uses the female midlander body.
    Lalafell use the...well, Lalafell body. Sometimes it's split into male and female but those two are pretty much identical.
    Male Roegadyn and Hrothgar use the male Roegadyn body.
    Every other male uses either the Midlander or Highlander body.


    Outside of very few exceptions they are not making any hats or helmets for Hrothgar or Viera, so I ask you, where is this extra work on equipment coming from when everything is made for the exact same races we've had since Heavensward?



    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    I highly doubt, that more jobs and races is so time consuming, that it slows down the patch cycles significantly. Because the development tools are also getting better und many things can be done automaticly.



    Cheers
    Refer to my spoilered post.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-07-2023 at 05:17 PM.

  9. #79
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    Rhea Seren
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 92
    The whole "due to covid we gotta do one dungeon per patch" - excuse also lost alot of its charm didn't it? ~
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  10. #80
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp View Post
    The whole "due to covid we gotta do one dungeon per patch" - excuse also lost alot of its charm didn't it? ~
    I'm not defending, but I don't think that Covid and 1 dungeon per patch are even related. I'm fairly sure that 1 dungeon per patch was announced long before Covid. If memory serves me correctly it was actually announced before the launch of 5.0.
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