What if the new caster job is Onmyoji

[Kozh]

Be prepared for an influx of people telling you Oracle is Astrologian and it will never happen. Geomancer gets that treatment all the time. Just because it also reads the future it’s basically an eastern themed Astrologian.

Well I mean the game themselves told us that geomancer is eastern version of AST because they both draw powers from the stars (with Geomancer focusing on the earth, hence why they use CNJ spells).

[Garnix]

Pretty sure the ninja turtles are the hint for the melee class (Corsair) and not for the magic dps.

Regarding the magic job, I expect Krile to use this job, and therefore expect an FFV-inspired job. From there, you don't have much choice....Time Mage, Geo, and indeed Oracle, so....

[DamianFatale]

Well I mean the game themselves told us that geomancer is eastern version of AST because they both draw powers from the stars (with Geomancer focusing on the earth, hence why they use CNJ spells).

One thing I dislike about fans of this series, is people are too quick to be dismissive just because something is similar.

The stars below, and the stars above are already a huge enough difference for me. That's enough for a complete reverse on the style of spells. I know Astrologian got some of its later spells from Geomancer quests, but classes learning from each other is not unheard of. Fans need to stop being so quick to shoot ides in the foot, just because of similarities. Monk, and Dancer are very similar, being that they both use historically real world monk style weapons. It doesn't mean they ended up the same though.

[Kozh]

One thing I dislike about fans of this series, is people are too quick to be dismissive just because something is similar.

The stars below, and the stars above are already a huge enough difference for me. That's enough for a complete reverse on the style of spells. I know Astrologian got some of its later spells from Geomancer quests, but classes learning from each other is not unheard of. Fans need to stop being so quick to shoot ides in the foot, just because of similarities. Monk, and Dancer are very similar, being that they both use historically real world monk style weapons. It doesn't mean they ended up the same though.

Do you not read what I wrote? I said that the game told us that geo and ast were theorized to be from the same school back then, but the were divided because one look into the stars and one is the earth. On top of that, ffxiv GEO spells are CNJ spells. So it's not just a "fans are quick to dismissive"

If it were up to me, I have no problem GEO being a new job. They could either retcon the CNJ spells, or maybe have us learn another GEO style to justify it as new caster. Same with Onmyoji, which imo is more distinguished and have better possibility to become new caster than GEO and Time Mage.

[DamianFatale]

Do you not read what I wrote? I said that the game told us that geo and ast were theorized to be from the same school back then, but the were divided because one look into the stars and one is the earth. On top of that, ffxiv GEO spells are CNJ spells. So it's not just a "fans are quick to dismissive"

If it were up to me, I have no problem GEO being a new job. They could either retcon the CNJ spells, or maybe have us learn another GEO style to justify it as new caster. Same with Onmyoji, which imo is more distinguished and have better possibility to become new caster than GEO and Time Mage.

Or just lean into the fact that geomancy is a recovering job, because it was forgotten by the main races. A recovering job can be restored, but also pushed into new directions.

[Raikai]

I could see it happening... if we were going into Hingashi or further into Othard.
We're going to a mesoamerican-themed "new world" continent.
Thematically, Onmyoji wouldn't fit here, considering real world parallelisms, something like Druid/Shaman would make more sense.
Then again, this is pure speculation, and since it's a fantasy setting they can justify any job being from anywhere.

I don't think they necessarily have that standard all the time.

We got Ninja way before stepping foot in the Far East. We got Dancer in an expansion before going to their homeland. Gunbreaker's origins were in Shadowbringers but a side story not part of the MSQ at all.

Of course, it's still likely that the jobs are featured in tandem with the expansion's locale, but that doesn't exclude the possibility of at least one of them not being from that place.

[Ascended_Demon]

One thing I dislike about fans of this series, is people are too quick to be dismissive just because something is similar.

Tell me though, are they wrong to do so? With how CBU3 wants new jobs to be "distinct" in some fashion from the already existing jobs it's no wonder people will dismiss something for being too similar to something that we already have. Course then you get people pouring out the woodwork to say "But what about Dark Knight and Reaper?" which granted are rather similar but are distinct enough from each other to justify their co-existence. Geomancer is too similar to not one but two already existing jobs/classes which makes even more people doubt it could be made a job. That and I doubt they want to go back to the solo instances that include an NPC geomancer combatant and update them to have them make sense with the job being playable now instead of them just being a reskinned CNJ/WHM with a bell in place of a staff.

If they decided to make geomancer a job anyway hey more power to them.

EDIT: As for Onmyoji, perhaps it could happen, perhaps not. I feel like they might say it's too similar to summoner.

[SweetPete]

By the end of the Astrologian job quest from 80 we know that Leveva was trying to think of a way to combine both astrology and geomancy together to form a new school of magic. When you talk to Kyokuho now in Kugane, he basically says the same thing about trying to figure out a way to combine both.

What if this new caster ends up being the combined schools of geomancy and astrology to form maybe Onmyouji. I wouldn’t be surprised.

[Renalt]

I want to be a Calculator and my weapon being an Abacus. I want to auto attack something to death with it!

[DamianFatale]

Tell me though, are they wrong to do so? With how CBU3 wants new jobs to be "distinct" in some fashion from the already existing jobs it's no wonder people will dismiss something for being too similar to something that we already have. Course then you get people pouring out the woodwork to say "But what about Dark Knight and Reaper?" which granted are rather similar but are distinct enough from each other to justify their co-existence. Geomancer is too similar to not one but two already existing jobs/classes which makes even more people doubt it could be made a job. That and I doubt they want to go back to the solo instances that include an NPC geomancer combatant and update them to have them make sense with the job being playable now instead of them just being a reskinned CNJ/WHM with a bell in place of a staff.

If they decided to make geomancer a job anyway hey more power to them.

EDIT: As for Onmyoji, perhaps it could happen, perhaps not. I feel like they might say it's too similar to summoner.

By your logic reaper is just a summoner with a scythe lol.