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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    There's nothing stopping them from introducing new characters alongside the familiar cast. Zero has become a main character and Vrtra a major supporting character throughout the 6.x patches while certain Scions are still involved. But yes, whether you or I personally like it or not, we "really do" need the Scions again. They're tremendously popular among the playerbase at large and our main "party" for this FF adventure. They're not going anywhere.
    I don't know if I would call Zero a main cast member yet. She's been with us for a handful of patches and seems very much like a special guest for this whole 13th shard story we're doing at the moment, which I assume will be concluded in 6.5 since every one of the scions that is involved with it will be leaving for the new world in 7.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlucaDragonheart View Post
    I understand that people love these characters, but do we really need all of them back again? Their character arcs were concluded pretty well in Endwalker, in my opinion.
    Y'shtola has never had a character arc and is in dire need of one.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Are the Scion really done though?
    like sure they have had multiple moments of character development but have they finished or found there purpose that gives them a reason to leave?
    Yshtola clearly wants to go back to the first thats her goal but rest of the scions don't really have a Goal they are working towards that warrants them to leave at some point.
    The twins are supposed to be helping with the reconstruction of Garlemald, which I guess they either just abandon or it will be quickly explained that they somehow managed to get them functioning as a self sufficient nation with a stable government and we just shouldn't care how that happened. I really am not sure what Urianger or Thancred would be pursuing since they have no character development independent of us. Really though they haven't given these characters any goals outside of what the plot demanded of them at the time, so they have nothing to do other than whatever we are doing.
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  4. #54
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    Y'shtola has never had a character arc and is in dire need of one.
    IDK about you, but I remember a character arc she went along in SHB



    maybe more of a 'character parabola' than an arc, I'm not sure
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  5. #55
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    I don't know if I would call Zero a main cast member yet. She's been with us for a handful of patches and seems very much like a special guest for this whole 13th shard story we're doing at the moment, which I assume will be concluded in 6.5 since every one of the scions that is involved with it will be leaving for the new world in 7.0.
    Main character is relative. She is certainly a main character during this story arc.

    As I've said elsewhere, I don't expect her to continue in MSQ but she may have a future in a sidequest arc, which has happened previously for characters like Hilda who left the MSQ but popped up in the MCH job quests.


    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    The twins are supposed to be helping with the reconstruction of Garlemald, which I guess they either just abandon or it will be quickly explained that they somehow managed to get them functioning as a self sufficient nation with a stable government and we just shouldn't care how that happened. I really am not sure what Urianger or Thancred would be pursuing since they have no character development independent of us. Really though they haven't given these characters any goals outside of what the plot demanded of them at the time, so they have nothing to do other than whatever we are doing.
    The twins are helping with Garlemald, yes. They're not the sole driving force behind the entire effort and it won't collapse without their personal presence – I would find that far more unrealistic. They've been there for months now, presumably working hard, and diplomatic connections have been made for trade with the Hannish. We may be getting updates on their progress for some time yet.

    And Thancred and Urianger are off "wandering the realm" and doing stuff independent of us (and being amusingly sarcastic buddies), which is how they've likely ended up independently recruited to Tural.
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  6. #56
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    I expect many of the older Scions will retire but still be available if needed. Once we get access to the First, many will take a break. That will leave more room for us and not paint the devs into a corner should they need them in the future.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Well I only see complaints about them here. And this place is a very small amount of the playerbase. Also you can read yes? Just a heads up saying most players does not equal the entire playerbase.
    Well I see complaints about them everywhere. And simps like you are a very small amount of the playerbase.
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  8. #58
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    Shadowbringers writing made them more likeable and upgraded them from the boring plot NPCs to Waifu/Husbando tier.

    I think it's pretty unlikely that any of them go away for a significant amount of time.
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    I was kinda hoping most of them would have taken a backseat for a while and have at most like 3 of them with us. Hopefully they will not get too much screen time so they can develope a new expansive cast of characters.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Well I see complaints about them everywhere.
    Likewise. I'm active on Twitter as well as the official forums and I've seen very mixed reactions to the Scions over the years on a rather consistent basis.
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