Do we really need the Scions again?

[Iscah]

Also a scion "dying" is usually some sort of fake out most of the time, which makes us have no real stakes with them anymore because you know they're always going to be fine, even if they happened to go off that way, no one would take it seriously at this.

I'm happy with them being "always perfectly fine" but I do wish they wouldn't do regular fake death drama thingies with them. (The exception being Ultima Thule – I was fine with the way that was handled.)

Like, at this point if they hypothetically did want to kill off Y'shtola, they've ruined their ability to have anyone take it seriously because they already did a big tragic scene of her being apparently dead and friends starting to grieve... and then she came back five minutes later with minimal effort.

Injured? Fine. Temporarily in life-threatening danger? Also fine. But fake deaths can only be milked for drama in limited quantities and need to be used super sparingly, especially as the game goes on longer and longer with this permanent core cast.

Yes, they will probably never truly kill off the major Scions at this point, but I'm fine with them just carrying on as the main cast through every expansion while the more interesting plot things either happen to other people or build the Scions up as more complex people. They don't have to die to achieve that.

[Rithy255]

Yes, they will probably never truly kill off the major Scions at this point, but I'm fine with them just carrying on as the main cast through every expansion while the more interesting plot things either happen to other people or build the Scions up as more complex people. They don't have to die to achieve that.

I feel like they're not really interesting at this point theirs no real room to have "development" like what else can you do with the characters at this point? Despite some small parts in ew, it was clear that the characters have grown but don't show a lot of room to grow as the main cast.

I rather they stay semi important characters that pop up a few times in the story instead of the main people we follow for the 3rd time? 4th time for the twins. It's just got to the point where fresh new faces new stakes, knowing that what you're doing comes with risks, HW was good for the reason you felt like people didn't just have plot armor it kind of ruins the characters if they all have plot Armor and theirs no stakes or fear of loss.

[Iscah]

I feel like they're not really interesting at this point theirs no real room to have "development" like what else can you do with the characters at this point? Despite some small parts in ew, it was clear that the characters have grown but don't show a lot of room to grow as the main cast.

You can just enjoy their company?

Seriously, that's what it feels like, as someone who likes the characters. (My default setting is "I will like them until they do something that makes me actively dislike them".)

They're old friends at this point. They can just be there and do stuff and be friendly to our character, and I enjoy their banter.

...Within the story of course. I'm not deluded into thinking of them as real friends.

[Fenral]

You can just enjoy their company?

Seriously, that's what it feels like, as someone who likes the characters. (My default setting is "I will like them until they do something that makes me actively dislike them".)

They're old friends at this point. They can just be there and do stuff and be friendly to our character, and I enjoy their banter.

I mean, they're basically our answer to the Straw Hat Pirates at this point. Questioning why Usopp is still around after the Going Merry sank is kind of missing the point.

[Ivtrix]

I mean, they're basically our answer to the Straw Hat Pirates at this point. Questioning why Usopp is still around after the Going Merry sank is kind of missing the point.

Usopp already got a taste of what happens if he leaves anyways (he ass got beat )

He’s all in on the sunken cost

Plus elbaf is on the horizon sooner or later