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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Another reason we might not have the Zodiark minion is due to spoilers.

    Imagine being a newer player and seeing the "mysterious being worshiped by the Ascians that's at the heart of everything" for the first time as a goofy little caricature.


    Getting the Athena minion over the Themis one was a little silly though.
    This didn’t stop them from adding Shinryu,Nidhogg,Dalamud etc minions though. A minion made in likeness of a literal calamity lol. Or spoilers wise there’s Graha lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    This didn’t stop them from adding Shinryu,Nidhogg,Dalamud etc minions though. A minion made in likeness of a literal calamity lol. Or spoilers wise there’s Graha lol.

    Dalamud minion was from the 1.0 soundtrack, and that ship had sailed by the time it released.


    As in, 2.0 was well into it's service life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    This didn’t stop them from adding Shinryu,Nidhogg,Dalamud etc minions though. A minion made in likeness of a literal calamity lol. Or spoilers wise there’s Graha lol.
    My point was being spoiled by seeing the being that has been alluded to throughout the entire history of the game and revealed near the climax after 100+ hours of gameplay for the first time as a cartoon in Lower Limsa.

    I don't think that's equivalent to G'raha considering he shows up in ARR and anyone who couldn't guess the Exarch's identity probably skipped cutscenes and doesn't care anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    My point was being spoiled by seeing the being that has been alluded to throughout the entire history of the game and revealed near the climax after 100+ hours of gameplay for the first time as a cartoon in Lower Limsa.

    I don't think that's equivalent to G'raha considering he shows up in ARR and anyone who couldn't guess the Exarch's identity probably skipped cutscenes and doesn't care anyway.
    They literally made venat minion lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    They literally made venat minion lol
    And it's not named Venat. Just as the other Ancient minions don't have their names to preserve their identities. What would you call a Zodiark minion to hide that it's Zodiark? Tentacle demon?

    I don't think Venat's appearance is a big deal anyway. If they did a Hydaelyn minion, that would be completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    What would you call a Zodiark minion to hide that it's Zodiark? Tentacle demon?
    There's probably a Greek word they could use for it. They did that with Aidoneus (Emet) and Philos (Hythlo).

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Themis i could see as a rising minion
    but it would have to be his little ancient one form post WoL
    or Lahabreah and Themis become treasure map minions like emet and hythlodeus
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Athena doesn't really have any chance to get a minion outside of Anabaseios, while Themis could be thrown into literally anything and people wouldn't care, so I'm thinking the developers wanted to make her now and do Themis later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    And it's not named Venat. Just as the other Ancient minions don't have their names to preserve their identities. What would you call a Zodiark minion to hide that it's Zodiark? Tentacle demon?

    I don't think Venat's appearance is a big deal anyway. If they did a Hydaelyn minion, that would be completely different.
    So? Then do the same for Zodiark lol

    For example, it could've been called wind-up Messiah. Or Martyr. Or something else in Greek
    (Thankfully the devs aren't so unimaginative as you, so I think it'll be fine)

    Meanwhile Themis minion could use his real name since all wind-up erich and athena use their name as well.

    Also are we forgetting that they already spoil Hydaelyn and Zodiark themselves when they show Amano art prior to EW release..?
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