FFXIV fans are the most welcoming MMO fans unless...

[Sotaris]

Half the community tries to gatekeep, the other tries to shut down any dialogue about the gatekeeping in order to keep up the facade of "friendliest MMORPG community". Now don't get me wrong, a lot of the community I've encountered since ARR has been brilliant, welcoming, friendly, helpful, kind. Like, genuinely. But just as much hasn't, and it's been this way since the start. Just like any other MMORPG's community. The problem I've found especially since mid-late ShB is the heavy enforcement of this facade. YOU MUST BE HAPPY, YOU MUST BE KIND, YOU MUST BE CONTENT, YOU MUST BE FRIENDLY.

Now the mask dropped pretty quick when so many members of this so called FRIENDLY, community were flipping tables when streamers like Asmongold started playing, bringing a sizeable influex of newblood from his community into the game. Things said along the lines of... he's not welcome, his community is not welcome. They're toxic, they'll make the game worse, they'll ruin the community.

Now, the mask slips again because of Xbox. :') They're not even playing yet and plenty of folks are losing their minds.
Personally I'm all for the community getting called out on this and the reputation getting shattered, it might do something about the heavily enforced toxic positivity that plagues this game and it's community.

Tbf, Asmongold did bring out some toxicity with his army of trolls.
But a minority of the community also made the game not enjoyable for him. I haven't followed him in a good while but from understanding he didn't return to the game?

I have yet to see anyone "lose their mind" that the game is getting available on another platform. It's just childish imo.
And I also don't think it's completely fair to label whole community from a small offset or vocal minority with this so called gatekeeping or losing their minds.

For example, everyone on this forum or reddit doesn't represent the community as a whole. We are a minority. And lets be real, the forum at least is 90% trolls with zero moderation.

[DubiousDisk]

Tbf, Asmongold did bring out some toxicity with his army of trolls.
But a minority of the community also made the game not enjoyable for him. I haven't followed him in a good while but from understanding he didn't return to the game?

I have yet to see anyone "lose their mind" that the game is getting available on another platform. It's just childish imo.
And I also don't think it's completely fair to label whole community from a small offset or vocal minority with this so called gatekeeping or losing their minds.

For example, everyone on this forum or reddit doesn't represent the community as a whole. We are a minority. And lets be real, the forum at least is 90% trolls with zero moderation.

Nope he didn't return, and yea his minority of fans were a bit annoying, but catching his streams, you would always see him put them in their place cause despite Asmon being well..Asmon, he does really LOVE MMOs and wants nothing more than for them to succeed, and he did love the game, but he cited that whenever he played, lots of people in-game that he blatantly didn't know would actively follow him, spoil the story, try to join his dungeon runs and ruin his experience, eventually pushing him off the game.

It's like I always say, this game has the most passive aggressive community I have ever seen in a game, you just have to notice it at the right time, cause most of the time, it will be covered up under the guise of "We are the friendliest"

[Sotaris]

Nope he didn't return, and yea his minority of fans were a bit annoying, but catching his streams, you would always see him put them in their place cause despite Asmon being well..Asmon, he does really LOVE MMOs and wants nothing more than for them to succeed, and he did love the game, but he cited that whenever he played, lots of people in-game that he blatantly didn't know would actively follow him, spoil the story, try to join his dungeon runs and ruin his experience, eventually pushing him off the game.

It's like I always say, this game has the most passive aggressive community I have ever seen in a game, you just have to notice it at the right time, cause most of the time, it will be covered up under the guise of "We are the friendliest"

I've seen my fair share of toxic, passive aggressive and the "whiteknighting" or whatever people here call it but I still overall say the majority is welcoming and friendly. But we are all humans so ofc there will be some bad apples.