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    Aco Nale
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    Dalriada also happens naturally in the instance itself, just like CLR, and unlike DR, which you queue for outside instance exclusively. THATS its real issue - the fact that its part of Bozja, but also requires you to go outside the Bozja and just HOPE enough people are queing for it, or PF it up, which goes contrary to emergent/natural formation thing that Expeditionary Ventures had going for them. Savage, yeah, I get that, but even normal turns it into a bottleneck not just for relic grinds, its a bottleneck even for plain story progression through Bozja quests. Although this being the step where the two alternative options are equitably awful to do for relic doesn't do it any favors either.
    You will get in automatically after 10 minutes of waiting in a queue for DRN but I agree that it's "weird" compared to most content. Many people in specialized Discords will be happy to help new players do it for the first time though so in a sense it encourages participation in the way MMOs did in the past.

    Not saying it's the best solution though but it's not that bad.

    The main problem I see is that getting one relic requires five runs of DRN, and it can take a bit if people don't go with the best actions. This doesn't take a lot of preparation but the average player will likely not use them as optimally as possible, which will slow down the grind.
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    Lauren Zackson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aco505 View Post
    You will get in automatically after 10 minutes of waiting in a queue for DRN but I agree that it's "weird" compared to most content. Many people in specialized Discords will be happy to help new players do it for the first time though so in a sense it encourages participation in the way MMOs did in the past.

    Not saying it's the best solution though but it's not that bad.

    The main problem I see is that getting one relic requires five runs of DRN, and it can take a bit if people don't go with the best actions. This doesn't take a lot of preparation but the average player will likely not use them as optimally as possible, which will slow down the grind.
    It took me weeks (and while I do play in dead timezone of my DC, I still managed to do all the rest of Bozja naturally quickly) to get DR done with because I ended up with like 3 people total at most until I got a lucky day when I could play during peak hours and got like 12. And I dont know how it scales, but it did NOT feel doable with 3 people. Or at the bare minimum, nobody felt like it was worth time investment after spending like 10 minutes on first boss to get it down 15% hp before wiping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    It took me weeks (and while I do play in dead timezone of my DC, I still managed to do all the rest of Bozja naturally quickly) to get DR done with because I ended up with like 3 people total at most until I got a lucky day when I could play during peak hours and got like 12. And I dont know how it scales, but it did NOT feel doable with 3 people. Or at the bare minimum, nobody felt like it was worth time investment after spending like 10 minutes on first boss to get it down 15% hp before wiping.
    You can definitely do it with a small amount of people but it will require all of them to use the proper actions and to be prepared for specific things (e. g. The Queen's Cleansing Slash and its doom).

    With good action usage, bosses should die at a normal pace without big problems.
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