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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Lmao what modders manage to do in a month or so will take SE four years
    They already outsource some of their asset development, too, so it's strange that they don't just swallow their pride and spend more money on 'catching up' with what needs to be done to make viera and hrothgar into properly complete playable races.

    Maybe they could spend less on marketing gimmicks and more on the game itself, though if anything I expect the costs there to rise moving forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Yeah. Modders can get away with it because, well, if they screw up they're not going to get complaints from Every. Single. Player.
    Oh yes is that why SE keeps screwing up with housing lottery bug, buff cap bugs or ugly pixelated assets like Hien's outfit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Yeah. Modders can get away with it because, well, if they screw up they're not going to get complaints from Every. Single. Player.
    In this hugbox of a society, where most people experience virtue-signaling so hard that it's almost gaslighting?
    I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Yeah. Modders can get away with it because, well, if they screw up they're not going to get complaints from Every. Single. Player.
    Except for when they make new sets with hats that can't be used on viera/hroth. That a modder gets working within a few hours of patch no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Seriously, I don't even know where people get the idea that 7.0 is going to end or even partially end the problems game, it's not just one or two people, it's like the vocal minority of the playerbase but majority of the troll posters.

    If you don't like the game at all, unironically save yourself the money and quit now, but by all metrics at this point this game is doing extremely well and growing. There's literally no point in waiting for 7.0 to destroy anything. Spoiler: they won't. Only reason to leave this game is if you genuinely dislike it, not anything wrong with the game itself..

    Let me just spoil the ending for all of you: FF14 is going to continue doing amazingly well, growing, and Square Enix is going to continue putting out content at the cadence they've established in like 8.0 or 9.0 or something, continuing to please a growing playerbase.

    CBU3 has like literally created one of the most popular MMORPGs on the market, each expansion iterating on the prior one with some lessons learned and some new experiments, that succeeded with the playerbase at large. They clearly know how. Given how they responded to the complaints about things such as the SB and ShB Relics, clearly they're open to feedback, too, iterating to try and find things that people like. So don't huff the doomium really, no need to wait for 7.0. It's already amazing.
    There, fixed that for ya.

    Also, can I have your stuff?

    .

    Seriously, you post this every second or third day. Either poop or get off the toilet. Either quit or shut up about it already.

    Actionable and constructive criticism is fine, but your flailing doomposting is just sad at this point.
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  6. #96
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    If you ever make an alt on Kujata, I owe you a drink at the Wench.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Seriously, I don't even know where people get the idea that 7.0 is going to end or even partially end the problems game, it's not just one or two people, it's like the vocal minority of the playerbase but majority of the troll posters.

    If you don't like the game at all, unironically save yourself the money and quit now, but by all metrics at this point this game is doing extremely well and growing. There's literally no point in waiting for 7.0 to destroy anything. Spoiler: they won't. Only reason to leave this game is if you genuinely dislike it, not anything wrong with the game itself..

    Let me just spoil the ending for all of you: FF14 is going to continue doing amazingly well, growing, and Square Enix is going to continue putting out content at the cadence they've established in like 8.0 or 9.0 or something, continuing to please a growing playerbase.

    CBU3 has like literally created one of the most popular MMORPGs on the market, each expansion iterating on the prior one with some lessons learned and some new experiments, that succeeded with the playerbase at large. They clearly know how. Given how they responded to the complaints about things such as the SB and ShB Relics, clearly they're open to feedback, too, iterating to try and find things that people like. So don't huff the doomium really, no need to wait for 7.0. It's already amazing.

    There, fixed that for ya.
    So this is where the doomium thread spawned from. Interesting.

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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    If you are unhappy about something, you have to be specific. Tell them exactly what you dislike and why you dislike it. Otherwise, it's just noise.
    Good post.

    The catch is that you do need a good take to present in the first place, in order for everyone else to get on board with it. As an illustration, there were a couple of cases in here where people tried to present specific examples on how they felt the Endwalker story 'should' have been written. Unfortunately, they ended up creating unintentional comedy in the process, much to their chagrin. Through repeated experience, they eventually learn to guard their overvalued ideas more closely.

    It's much safer to stick to relatable but vaguely-expressed discontent. It doesn't achieve anything, but it gets attention for relatively low effort.
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Good post.

    The catch is that you do need a good take to present in the first place, in order for everyone else to get on board with it. As an illustration, there were a couple of cases in here where people tried to present specific examples on how they felt the Endwalker story 'should' have been written. Unfortunately, they ended up creating unintentional comedy in the process, much to their chagrin. Through repeated experience, they eventually learn to guard their overvalued ideas more closely.

    It's much safer to stick to relatable but vaguely-expressed discontent. It doesn't achieve anything, but it gets attention for relatively low effort.
    Have the endless, targeted and offering solutions posts pertaining to healer design post the great lobotomy not been specific enough for you

    We have shown what we don’t like, we have shown why we don’t like it, we have shown ways we think the healers could be better without just reverting them to 4.5- stormblood Lilies; and what did we get for our Ernest attempt to give proper feedback on jobs we play

    “Lol go play ultimate”

    Blaming us for not being specific in our feedback when the developers poignantly ignore us is not going to fix anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
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    There's a lot of specific feedback and discussion around what needs to be done with healer job design on the healer subforum, which is really good. I think a big part of the problem is in the consensus. There was a discussion on this earlier, in fact.
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