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    Never really understood this obsession with player numbers. Who are you trying to convince? What for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    I know you are trolling but i will take your bait and see if i can contribute with some useful info if anyone is honestly interested.

    TwitchTracker and any stream platform is a mean to analyze AUDIENCE (e.g: people that probably is not playing the game right now for multiple reasons).

    We can say that is a indirect way to measure hype. Keep in mind that our community is weird and the same person may watch multiple streamers just to see reactions to a specific scene (me included).


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    Congrats? You showed 4 failures? That doesn't mean FF14 isn't a failure. The entire MMO genre is a failure LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Congrats? You showed 4 failures? That doesn't mean FF14 isn't a failure. The entire MMO genre is a failure LMAO

    So... why are you here?


    Oh right, to troll and because you side-RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
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    So...you're just proving their Point.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    The entire MMO genre is a failure LMAO
    It is though

    MMO as a genre just doesn't appeal to younger generation anymore.

    Mobile games are just a lot more profitable.

    Many young people I met don't even have PC or console. They just play with their phones.
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    I don't personally buy into the idea that the MMO genre lacks in appeal to 'younger generations'. If anything, it's the lack of innovation that is to blame. Yoshi-P claimed the same thing about turn based JRPG's and yet they've been doing fairly well for themselves.

    Putting someone in charge of FFXIV who actually has faith in the genre and a fresh perspective would do wonders for the game's livelihood. I can't think of many industries where someone in charge of them has little faith in their future would stick around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I don't personally buy into the idea that the MMO genre lacks in appeal to 'younger generations'. If anything, it's the lack of innovation that is to blame. Yoshi-P claimed the same thing about turn based JRPG's and yet they've been doing fairly well for themselves.

    Putting someone in charge of FFXIV who actually has faith in the genre and a fresh perspective would do wonders for the game's livelihood. I can't think of many industries where someone in charge of them has little faith in their future would stick around.
    How do you get from "turn based JRPG's" to "who has little faith in their future" of MMORPGs? There was a lot missing from that narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    How do you get from "turn based JRPG's" to "who has little faith in their future" of MMORPGs? There was a lot missing from that narrative.
    Though various interviews he's made and the statements contained within. I certainly don't agree with his takes on the idea that turn based games aren't exciting enough for the younger generation of gamers as he implies in this particular interview:

    Source: https://www.gameinformer.com/feature...rn-based-for-a

    Another poster also linked interviews containing commentary showing little faith in the MMO genre, as found here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Funny, so he doesn't want to be on the Board, and then also claimed in 2016 he didn't want to be in the Producer role for 14 according to this... really doesn't sound like a recipe for happiness.
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