Thread: By far the most boring and disappointing expansion trailer this game has had

I can't be the only one thinking this. What happened to this game after Shadowbringers?

Shadowbringers was the catalyst lol.

Originally Posted by Mithron

I can't be the only one thinking this. What happened to this game after Shadowbringers?

People have been asking for a low-stakes adventure for fun. Lo and behold, a low-stakes adventure for fun. We're on a new continent with new characters to meet, new places to explore, and new mysteries to uncover. The trailer is teasing plenty enough to sink my teeth into.

I'm excited for it. And I still remember the time you ran into the Gilgamesh Novice Network screaming about how we're all delusional for enjoying the game. Enough doomposting, man.

Originally Posted by Remish

If we follow the plot pyramid, Endwalker was the Climax, Dawntrail is the start of the Falling Action. It's not impossible for there to be a second Rising Action but we have to suffer through the falling action first to get there.

Your diagram is better interpreted as the components for each and every expansion. Leveling encompasses both exposition and rising action. The end of leveling is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are the falling action with resolution of the primary story lines for that particular expansion as part of the final patch release. In the case of Endwalker, the Endsinger Trial is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are falling actions (which may have their own rise/climax/falling action).

When writing multipart fiction such as trilogies, writers can (and do) cheat. They are not bound to the diagram you presented. Endwalker at release can be considered the resolution phase of the 2.0 through 6.0 story line itself. Complete with its own Climax (as multipart fiction tends to do).

Dawntrail at its release will utilize all of the plot components you've mentioned in its own self-contained story line, not a continuation of Endwalker.

Originally Posted by DPZ2

Your diagram is better interpreted as the components for each and every expansion. Leveling encompasses both exposition and rising action. The end of leveling is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are the falling action with resolution of the primary story lines for that particular expansion as part of the final patch release. In the case of Endwalker, the Endsinger Trial is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are falling actions (which may have their own rise/climax/falling action).

When writing multipart fiction such as trilogies, writers can (and do) cheat. They are not bound to the diagram you presented. Endwalker at release can be considered the resolution phase of the 2.0 through 6.0 story line itself. Complete with its own Climax (as multipart fiction tends to do).

Dawntrail at its release will utilize all of the plot components you've mentioned in its own self-contained story line, not a continuation of Endwalker.

I was speaking on FFXIV as a whole single pyramid, not individual expansions as separate pyramids side by side.

Originally Posted by Remish

I was speaking on FFXIV as a whole single pyramid, not individual expansions as separate pyramids side by side.

And I was speaking of FFXIV as a multipart fiction. If you must insist that a diagram portray the entirety of the work, the death of Elidibus in Shadowbringers was the Climax, and Endwalker has been the Falling Action and Resolution.

Originally Posted by Remish

This is actually true. The community has been wanting low-stakes slice of life adventure for a long time and it grew even more widespread as of patch 6.1 with Newfound Adventures. Which didn't deliver the way people had hoped it would.

If we follow the plot pyramid, Endwalker was the Climax, Dawntrail is the start of the Falling Action. It's not impossible for there to be a second Rising Action but we have to suffer through the falling action first to get there.

I do believe we're going to be seeing the beginnings of a rising action by the end of this story, as well as this expansion being a fun adventure i believe it's also setting up a larger story.

Originally Posted by Remish

This is actually true. The community has been wanting low-stakes slice of life adventure for a long time and it grew even more widespread as of patch 6.1 with Newfound Adventures. Which didn't deliver the way people had hoped it would.

If we follow the plot pyramid, Endwalker was the Climax, Dawntrail is the start of the Falling Action. It's not impossible for there to be a second Rising Action but we have to suffer through the falling action first to get there.

I'm not sure about that. I'd say defeating the Endsinger was the Climax, and anything after that was the falling action. Golbez is a filler arc, you could say he has his own pyramid, but overall isn't impactful.

The trailer would be the Exposition for the new arc, not the Falling Action.