Wesk Alber's poll on Jobs

[Supersnow845]

I love this as much as people bad mouth sage ofc its the most play job, who cares if it has weaker aoe shields (cause its E diag crit with a zoe =is stronger than a crit alco even if fey illum and disspiate is used because zoe is 20% stonger on heal potency up)and even that is not so serious, HOLOS/physis 2/kera chole is whooping hp regen + migitation/shield which is all sage need and cost 0 mp. On my server of Aether that is very raid heavy it is certainly true SCH is the less played healer and the most heal combo is either whm/sage or ast/sage. If honestly sage had strong aoe shields like sch, am positive sch would not even be played at all.

SGE just wins out over SCH because SCH is clunky, SCH still dominates SGE in AOE shields even with the holos changes because of spreadlo and because recitation can force adlo to crit while SGE just kinda hopes that their shields crit, spreadlo on the tank only using protaction is stronger than Zoe e prognosis + holos which is more CD costly for the SGE than it is the SCH and SCH also has the capacity to buff it further with dissipation and fey illumination

SCH also has more utility, totem healing is a godsend in savage, expedient is probably the one true support skill left in the game (though I’d argue curing waltz also fits the bill), eos is better at passive party healing than kardia swapping and chain stagmentation is almost as strong a buff as divination and requires 0 setup

SGE being more popular despite having functionally no upsides over SCH (about the only one is it’s healing is free and it has a very slightly stronger mana economy) is pretty much the same as why WHM is more played than AST despite being objectively worse, and that’s people don’t really love clunky jobs and when all healers feel the same anyway the differences in utility just don’t feel worth it

[IceBlueNinja]

SGE just wins out over SCH because SCH is clunky, SCH still dominates SGE in AOE shields even with the holos changes because of spreadlo and because recitation can force adlo to crit while SGE just kinda hopes that their shields crit, spreadlo on the tank only using protaction is stronger than Zoe e prognosis + holos which is more CD costly for the SGE than it is the SCH and SCH also has the capacity to buff it further with dissipation and fey illumination

SCH also has more utility, totem healing is a godsend in savage, expedient is probably the one true support skill left in the game (though I’d argue curing waltz also fits the bill), eos is better at passive party healing than kardia swapping and chain stagmentation is almost as strong a buff as divination and requires 0 setup

SGE being more popular despite having functionally no upsides over SCH (about the only one is it’s healing is free and it has a very slightly stronger mana economy) is pretty much the same as why WHM is more played than AST despite being objectively worse, and that’s people don’t really love clunky jobs and when all healers feel the same anyway the differences in utility just don’t feel worth it

I didnt say anything about E prog+ zoe at all? I said kera+physis 2 + holos combine is enough migitation + powerful hot in one , E crit Diag is stronger than crit alco since zoe is 50% increase heal and illum and dissipate = only 30% (am talking single shield aspect not aoe ) and many people say anyways who needs shields if the mech wont kill you? its actually good that sages shields are weaker cause it actually makes challenges abit more hetic which is what everyone gripe tends to be that content is too easy outside of ultimate. Also please remember there is pani and hani which can be stacked too if needed and the fact they do a big burst heal similar to the whm bell spell. When sch die they waste tons of dps time having to summon the fairy again and oh boy if aether flow is on cd gl on mana , a dead sage still will regen mana easy since addergall still charges on death and unlike sch sage is awarded their mp back easier . Kardia is alot more useful and powerful if soteria is added increasing kardia proc heals and you cna even add krasis as well that affects all heal actions. Abit off topic the nurse for anyone that knows or play dead by daylight is S tier yet she is the less used killer in the game, its kinda like that with scholar, sometimes its simply not about being powerful in things that will make people play.

[Supersnow845]

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Zoe crit e diagnosis is stronger than critlo+dissiaption+illuminatio……if you can get the diagnosis that you zoe’ed to actually crit, SCH can force it to crit with recitation (and then deploy it for a party wife shield that doesn’t negatively impact the tank’s shield), if it doesn’t crit them SCH’s shield dominates in both single and AOE

Content is too easy because of the way it’s designed and all healers being too strong on the oGCD front, SGE being 5% weaker on most front won’t change the feeling of gameplay

As for haima and panhaima they are pretty much equivalent to seraph who applies a shield for every embrace to her target and allows for 2 charges to consolation, the utility of one of these over the other is debatable (I tend to favour panhaima here but there is no real clear winner), Soteria is just a weaker form of fey union (that can’t be turned on and off at will and heals for less per tick), krasis vs protraction is definitely an either or, since SCH is the only one with deployment I would actually prefer krasis over protraction and I feel SGE would prefer protraction but that’s a very edge case, ET is objectively better than Pepsi

that leaves pneuma on SGE and CS and expedient on SCH, I’ll take out expedients mitigation effect as SCH’s answer to holos (though illumination is also a weaker low level equivalent) then on that front SCH’s utility wins out over pneuma (which is a damn good skill in its own right don’t get me wrong)

On the front of SCH recovering terribly from death I 100% agree it’s legit painful

Other than that SGE isn’t bad in any way it’s Judy if you want any level of expression in your job identity SCH wins in almost every category even it’s only by like 5%

[IceBlueNinja]

Zoe crit e diagnosis is stronger than critlo+dissiaption+illuminatio……if you can get the diagnosis that you zoe’ed to actually crit, SCH can force it to crit with recitation (and then deploy it for a party wife shield that doesn’t negatively impact the tank’s shield), if it doesn’t crit them SCH’s shield dominates in both single and AOE

Content is too easy because of the way it’s designed and all healers being too strong on the oGCD front, SGE being 5% weaker on most front won’t change the feeling of gameplay

As for haima and panhaima they are pretty much equivalent to seraph who applies a shield for every embrace to her target and allows for 2 charges to consolation, the utility of one of these over the other is debatable (I tend to favour panhaima here but there is no real clear winner), Soteria is just a weaker form of fey union (that can’t be turned on and off at will and heals for less per tick), krasis vs protraction is definitely an either or, since SCH is the only one with deployment I would actually prefer krasis over protraction and I feel SGE would prefer protraction but that’s a very edge case, ET is objectively better than Pepsi

that leaves pneuma on SGE and CS and expedient on SCH, I’ll take out expedients mitigation effect as SCH’s answer to holos (though illumination is also a weaker low level equivalent) then on that front SCH’s utility wins out over pneuma (which is a damn good skill in its own right don’t get me wrong)

On the front of SCH recovering terribly from death I 100% agree it’s legit painful

Other than that SGE isn’t bad in any way it’s Judy if you want any level of expression in your job identity SCH wins in almost every category even it’s only by like 5%

Fair enough and dont get me wrong, I hate pepsis its needs a total rework, no matter how some try convince me that its good. I just never ever been in any situation where I need it.