For those who main/semi-main a DPS (e.g. DNC, RDM) but like Healers...

[Renathras]

First of all,

Hardly, but I find it a bit hard to believe if there was a true Support Job in the game you wouldn't play it, since it checks all of your boxes. Note I didn't say "you don't want to play a Healer". I'm saying you're saying you don't want to play a Support...but you're playing a Support right now (DNC is, in all but official name, a Support role Job). I'm not implying you ONLY want to play a Support. I'm SAYING you would probably like one, considering you're already maining one, and the changes you generally advocate for various Healer Jobs would be one as well.

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I'm not the one arguing to rename Healer to Support - that's Roe.

I'm the one arguing to add Support as a fourth role. At least get who is making what argument right, please.

This conversation is HeALerS shOuLD hEaL oNLy in sheep's clothing. Ren wants to expel the dirty not-REAL healers off into a separate role dungeon because some people just want to HEAL, blaaaah blah blah blah same argument it always is in different wording.

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Another thing, you also can't just have a support role and a healer role where both are equally capable of meeting all healing requirements in the game, yet the support role does much higher overall damage.

Literally who is asking for this?

I get you THINK I said "You're not a real healer!" and are having a conniption, but I didn't say that. Saying you'd like a Support - because you literally main one now - isn't some kind of hidden insult. And it's not saying you're not a Healer. So you need to cool off from that insult since I didn't make it.

When you get mad, you tend to do this thing where you invent arguments I didn't make to attack me over after you think I attacked or insulted you. You kind of lash out wildly when you feel slighted and get mad. I didn't, so you don't need to lash out.

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Also, to answer the question of why DPS do more damage than Healers (or Tanks or Support): Because without Enrage mechanics, there'd be no reason to bring DPS roles. Damage is the least valuable thing to bring to a party absent an Enrage. And with an Enrage, DPS still have to do more damage than any other role otherwise they'd be the first role dropped.

Suppose GNB did the same damage that DRG does. There'd be no reason to bring any DPS players. You could bring a pair of Healers then stack the party with GNBs. "Tank privilege" means they'd be less likely to die, and there would be tons of defensive CDs. Mechanics would be far easier to deal with with all the extra invulns.

Enrages artificially make DPS classes a requirement, but even there, they only do so if DPS classes do significantly more damage than Tanks/Healers/Support. If they didn't, they'd be the first Jobs dropped from a party as they'd be bringing nothing to the table that those others do not. In a world of no Enrages, defense and healing are more important to most people since they would guarantee clears while higher DPS without healing and defenses would not, and most Humans are risk-averse, meaning they tend towards the least risky option. If PLDs did the same damage as MNKs, PLD would be the most played Job and meta would just be all PLD clears, possibly with a Healer/SMN/RDM or two for Raise security.