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  1. #11
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    There's a new Supranaka with a combo action, Innocence + Mount Gulg (don't know the names yet). The first you use 4 times in a row and it gives you a buff for ~10s, then you can use the other one 3-4 times during that window and it does double damage. At least, that's what I think it means reading the tooltips...
    I thought that too, but I tested it. You only get to use the boosted follow-up once, then the buff falls off. It's an interesting idea, but worth two spell slots on that 90 second cooldown? Eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh I'd rather just take the Matoya's water AOE (500p, 1000 during rain) and the Titania AOE (800p with 50% falloff) as staple spells. Straightforward oGCD two-minute cooldowns.

    Moonflute, on the other hand, is a spell I hate. I don't find sitting around doing literally nothing "fun". Spamming a filler spell at least feels like I'm doing something, and Off-Guard already gives a "burst" effect.
    You can mitigate this a little bit by ending your Moon Flute burst with a channeled attack like Apokalypsis. It doesn't cancel something you're already doing (though you can't do Phantom Flurry's finisher)
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    Last edited by Semirhage; 07-23-2023 at 05:19 AM.

  2. #12
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    Ren Thras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    I thought that too, but I tested it. You only get to use the boosted follow-up once, then the buff falls off. It's an interesting idea, but worth two spell slots on that 90 second cooldown? Eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh I'd rather just take the Matoya's water AOE (500p, 1000 during rain) and the Titania AOE (800p with 50% falloff) as staple spells. Straightforward oGCD two-minute cooldowns.
    Aww, that's disappointing.

    I suppose the nice thing is you could use Conviction as your filler spell. 220 damage to all enemies (in a line before you), 2 sec cast, 2.5 sec recast. You can use it as your filler and then use Reprobation as your big CD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    You can mitigate this a little bit by ending your Moon Flute burst with a channeled attack like Apokalypsis. It doesn't cancel something you're already doing (though you can't do Phantom Flurry's finisher)
    That's interesting and good to know...but I still hate Moonflute and abilities like it. I guess some people like it, but...the nice thing about BLU vs other Jobs, though - we can pick the spells we personally like. So if I dislike that one, I don't have to use it. \o/
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    Last edited by Renathras; 07-23-2023 at 05:54 AM. Reason: Edit for typo

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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Pom Cure, Stotram, Gobskin, Angel's Snack, Exuviation, White Wind, Angel Whisper, and Aetheric Mimicry obviously. Other than that, Cactguard (which really should be a healer boosted ability not tank since they can't even put it on themselves) and
    Cactguard as I see it is for OT support.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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    Eira Landale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Cactguard as I see it is for OT support.
    I could see it being used that way, but I also never do see it being used that way. The only time, and it really was just only one time, it ever got cast on me while tanking was from a healer.
    Meanwhile I toss it off for every TB while healing since it actually has an acceptable cast time and I'm already watching the tank like a hawk as is. The few times I could use it while tanking, I never have the chance to because I almost always end up MT and don't have the time to figure out who's getting the random target TB, especially if I'm already targeted and need to mitigate for myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    I could see it being used that way, but I also never do see it being used that way.
    I personally used it in t13, along with bad breath, as my rotation as OT for the morbol raids, to help the MT not die to the oppressively hard hitting autoattacks, it also freed the MT up a little bit (not having to badbreath) to blood drain more, so they had more MP to work with for diamondbacks

    now that we have eg devour, dragonforce, chelonian gate, cactguard has fallen to the wayside a bit I think
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    I think of Cactguard as Aquaveil/Exaltation/Taurochole.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Aww, that's disappointing.

    I suppose the nice thing is you could use Conviction as your filler spell. 220 damage to all enemies (in a line before you), 2 sec cast, 2.5 sec recast. You can use it as your filler and then use Reprobation as your big CD.



    That's interesting and good to know...but I still hate Moonflute and abilities like it. I guess some people like it, but...the nice thing about BLU vs other Jobs, though - we can pick the spells we personally like. So if I dislike that one, I don't have to use it. \o/
    Moonflute as a healer? That gives me a ton of anxiety... I'm sure that the 15s of downtime can be placed in a situation where there's no damage rolling, but still, not sure if I'd take that if the dps check didn't require it for healers.
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