EW Relic Grind is just a streamlined version of ARR/HW Grind

[Jojoya]

“Making your own relic step” with the least efficient way to grind tomestones isn’t content I’ll say that again, and how am I making her point stronger, I offered 9 ways I’d like to grind a relic considering the prevailing argument around this relic is “do it yourself”, she offered one of those 9 ways as a possibility despite it being so inefficient you would literally have to be forcing yourself to do it at the expense of any other route and then completely ignored the other 8

The anima relics had steps in which you had 8 different options for progressing a particular step and that pulled from all the games content, using roulette tomes as a patchwork “see you can do whatever you want” isn’t content

So let's look at the ways you offered:

What if I want to earn my relic doing eureka, what about POTD, ocean fishing, PVP, gathering, crafting, beast tribes, variant dungeons, Bozja

Eureka is the only way to make progress on the Stormblood relic. It would make no sense to tie a second relic to it (not to mention it would create an even larger mess of items in a player's bags than the first one did - I've still got my chocobo saddlebag filled with crystals, etc. I'll never use and keep forgetting to discard).

PotD is already an option for at least one stage of the Bozja weapon (I never finished mine so I don't know if it could be used for multiple stages). If you're thinking of Deep Dungeon in general, Eureka Orthos will reward Causality if you're using a level 90 job. There's an option for you.

Ocean fishing is a gathering activity. Gathering and crafting now have their own relic tools to work on. It makes little sense to use them to earn a relic weapon (even if it had been done in the past) when players now have the relic tools to get.

PvP - has PvP ever been a method for getting a relic weapon completed? I don't PvP so I would automatically tune it out if it was offered as an option. That said, I personally wouldn't have objections if PvP was an option as long as players had non-PvP options to choose.

Tribal quests - unfortunately, Arkasodara rewards Comedy when done on a level 90 job. Even if it was Causality instead of Comedy, it would end up replacing Variant as your least efficient option so it surprises me you'd bring it up.

Bozja - like Eureka, it already has a relic weapon heavily tied to it. It would make no sense to add a second.

To me, the only one out of your list that would make sense to add as an option is PvP. Adding current expansion FATEs could also be an option if they can solve the problems seen with the FATE farming in the early stages of the Resistance weapons.

In general, it makes more sense to me that level cap content would be the preferred source when working on relics. Lower level content frequently had its own role in other relics.

If players want to pursue the most efficient option simply because it's the most efficient instead of because they actually enjoy the content, that's their choice. Nothing says you have to choose the same. Getting a relic isn't a race.

[Supersnow845]

So let's look at the ways you offered:


Eureka is the only way to make progress on the Stormblood relic. It would make no sense to tie a second relic to it (not to mention it would create an even larger mess of items in a player's bags than the first one did - I've still got my chocobo saddlebag filled with crystals, etc. I'll never use and keep forgetting to discard).

PotD is already an option for at least one stage of the Bozja weapon (I never finished mine so I don't know if it could be used for multiple stages). If you're thinking of Deep Dungeon in general, Eureka Orthos will reward Causality if you're using a level 90 job. There's an option for you.

Ocean fishing is a gathering activity. Gathering and crafting now have their own relic tools to work on. It makes little sense to use them to earn a relic weapon (even if it had been done in the past) when players now have the relic tools to get.

PvP - has PvP ever been a method for getting a relic weapon completed? I don't PvP so I would automatically tune it out if it was offered as an option. That said, I personally wouldn't have objections if PvP was an option as long as players had non-PvP options to choose.

Tribal quests - unfortunately, Arkasodara rewards Comedy when done on a level 90 job. Even if it was Causality instead of Comedy, it would end up replacing Variant as your least efficient option so it surprises me you'd bring it up.

Bozja - like Eureka, it already has a relic weapon heavily tied to it. It would make no sense to add a second.

To me, the only one out of your list that would make sense to add as an option is PvP. Adding current expansion FATEs could also be an option if they can solve the problems seen with the FATE farming in the early stages of the Resistance weapons.

In general, it makes more sense to me that level cap content would be the preferred source when working on relics. Lower level content frequently had its own role in other relics.

If players want to pursue the most efficient option simply because it's the most efficient instead of because they actually enjoy the content, that's their choice. Nothing says you have to choose the same. Getting a relic isn't a race.

You heard it here first guys, anytime a method has been used by a previous relic it can no longer be used for a current relic
Your current options for completing this relic now consist of……….variant dungeons

But seriously who cares if a previous relic has used a method, the older relics didn’t give a crap that the even older relics had already used these methods, if they want to sell this relic as “achieve it your way” then give us more than roulettes

[Striker44]

You heard it here first guys, anytime a method has been used by a previous relic it can no longer be used for a current relic
Your current options for completing this relic now consist of……….variant dungeons

But seriously who cares if a previous relic has used a method, the older relics didn’t give a crap that the even older relics had already used these methods, if they want to sell this relic as “achieve it your way” then give us more than roulettes

Well, first, that's not what he said. Second, this entire discussion is about the plethora of ways besides roulettes that you can use to achieve these relics your way. What we have here is the definition of a bad-faith poster.

[Supersnow845]

Well, first, that's not what he said. Second, this entire discussion is about the plethora of ways besides roulettes that you can use to achieve these relics your way. What we have here is the definition of a bad-faith poster.

He refuted every method I offered by basically saying either “another relic already used it” or “it doesn’t fit with a combat relic” (you know despite older relics using non combat methods) so yes that is pretty much exactly what he said

And yes all the methods besides roulettes we have….checks notes…..variant and EO (let’s ignore they are also the 2 least efficient methods of getting causality tomestones), unfortunately picking to do the aetherfont for x random reason rather than just the expert roulette doesn’t count as 2 seperate pieces of content

So I’m still yet to see this mythical variation people love to preach about