We need new events,

[AlexiaD]

The servers are dead, we have the same old events and nothing new. How about a Headless Horseman type event in the major capital cities??

Honestly, Yoshi needs to quit telling people to play other games, they all leave, and our FCs pays the price.

You are about to get attacked by all the delusional people saying "the game is in a steadfast growth and it's growing every patch there's more and more people !"

I wish you good luck

but on topic, you are right, new events would be fun, the events we get are just the same thing over and over again from previous years and its completely boring

[Renathras]

You are about to get attacked by all the delusional people saying "the game is in a steadfast growth and it's growing every patch there's more and more people !"

You mean that time I used your own data source to show the game has steadfast growth and is growing every patch and there's more and more people? [EDIT: NOTE: Compared to the same point in the prior expansion]

What part of "Using your own data source" is "delusional?"

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OP, hyperbole is why nothing is changing.

"The servers are dead" is an absolute lie. You can bring up content lulls, reduced numbers of players during the lull in patch cycles, especially with them being longer and so on. But when your premise is based on a lie, and you overstate your case, it shouldn't surprise you when people call you out and when rational people don't listen.

For example "The servers are dead, we have the same old events and nothing new. How about a Headless Horsman type even tin the major capital cities?? Honestly, Yoshi needs to quit telling people to play other games, they all leave, and our FCs pays the price.";

Instead you could say: "While updated each year with new rewards and new story, the seasonal events are always the same holidays. While that makes sense in real life, it would be neat to see some more events, even at unexpected times. Perhaps some kind of monster attack on one of the capital cities like happened in 1.X would be interesting? New events added from time to time could also be welcome changes, either as one-time events or permanent additions to the rotation."

There's no lie there, no overstating, no hyperbole. Just a simple request said rationally and calmly, and that's actionable and makes sense with the game world and design.

[Deo14]

You mean that time I used your own data source to show the game has steadfast growth and is growing every patch and there's more and more people?

What part of "Using your own data source" is "delusional?"

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OP, hyperbole is why nothing is changing.

"The servers are dead" is an absolute lie. You can bring up content lulls, reduced numbers of players during the lull in patch cycles, especially with them being longer and so on. But when your premise is based on a lie, and you overstate your case, it shouldn't surprise you when people call you out and when rational people don't listen.

For example "The servers are dead, we have the same old events and nothing new. How about a Headless Horsman type even tin the major capital cities?? Honestly, Yoshi needs to quit telling people to play other games, they all leave, and our FCs pays the price.";

Instead you could say: "While updated each year with new rewards and new story, the seasonal events are always the same holidays. While that makes sense in real life, it would be neat to see some more events, even at unexpected times. Perhaps some kind of monster attack on one of the capital cities like happened in 1.X would be interesting? New events added from time to time could also be welcome changes, either as one-time events or permanent additions to the rotation."

There's no lie there, no overstating, no hyperbole. Just a simple request said rationally and calmly, and that's actionable and makes sense with the game world and design.

Mate, you said yesterday that this game has 2M - 4M of currently active players at any given time (if 0.5% = 20K => 4M, if 1% = 20K => 2M). This would make this game most popular game in the world by far.

Please stop speaking about any sort of data, it's not your strong suit.

[Renathras]

Mate, you said yesterday that this game has 2M - 4M

Care to provide a quote of that?

Perhaps you mean this post?

(assuming 1-2 million, which is a pretty solid ballpark estimate of the size of the playerbase right now)

Mate, you shouldn't tell such blatant and easily debunked lies about people.

And in that same thread you said you TOTALLY have sources, but refused to provide them with asked?

Please stop speaking about any sort of data, it's not your strong suit.

EDIT:

I disagree with the reason but the outcome of newer event would be a welcome one.

Same and agreed.

[Deo14]

Care to provide a quote of that?

Perhaps you mean this post?

(assuming 1-2 million, which is a pretty solid ballpark estimate of the size of the playerbase right now)

[Completely unrelated quote]

Mate, you shouldn't tell such blatant and easily debunked lies about people.

And in that same thread you said you TOTALLY have sources, but refused to provide them with asked?

Please stop speaking about any sort of data, it's not your strong suit.

Here's what I'm refering to:

I'd say the fact that - as another poster so kindly pointed out - at least 20000...

1) We have hard data proving this number?

2) So that's between 0.5% and 1% of the playerbase. What about the other 99%?

Theodric pointed out Mare's concurrent users are at 20K, which is true. Then you retorted and said that those 20K are 0.5% to 1% of population. Which brings us to 2M-4M concurrent players, because how could you possibly deduct from this single parameter a number of daily players, or anything else (ignore that 2-4mil is way too much even for daily players).

Just to put this insane number in perspective, CS:GO is at 750K, and DotA 2 at 300K concurrent players.

And I also provided sources in that thread now, hope you're happy.



Edit because of post limit:

Actually, it seems to be his strong suit. He did a rather thorough and accurate analysis in that other thread, proving how even the infamous Steam data shows the game continues growing considerably with each expansion (including EW having a significantly higher population than ShB at each similar patch along the way). Then you get the guy claiming the servers are "dead"...umm...what? During Make It Rain, you could go to the GS virtually any time of the day or night and it was packed. People have been posting how Aether had almost 150 end-game groups going in PF at once, and even one of the non-Aether DC's had around 100 (the majority of which were high-end duties). Heck, now with the new patch the Aether hunt trains have gone back to only announcing them on individual servers instead of DC-wide because of how over-populated and unwieldy they become if the wanderers join.

I think the person mentioning playing chess against pigeons in the other thread has it right...

Cool, but I wasn't arguing about any of that, don't know how I'm related to it. We already know that players numbers are doing good for a few months now from latest LuckyBanchoo survey, it's nothing new:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...3_139m_active/



Pretty easy to do an analysis when results are already there for you to cross-check.

[Iscah]

(since this 90s website implodes when you put quote in quote, so I had to put it in image)

Are you sure about that?

really sure?

You just need to insert the second layer manually, to my experience.

It just doesn't keep stacking quotes in quotes in quotes when you press the button. For the most part, that's smarter forum design than letting the chain build up.

[Striker44]

Mate, you said yesterday that this game has 2M - 4M of currently active players at any given time (if 0.5% = 20K => 4M, if 1% = 20K => 2M). This would make this game most popular game in the world by far.

Please stop speaking about any sort of data, it's not your strong suit.

Actually, it seems to be his strong suit. He did a rather thorough and accurate analysis in that other thread, proving how even the infamous Steam data shows the game continues growing considerably with each expansion (including EW having a significantly higher population than ShB at each similar patch along the way). Then you get the guy claiming the servers are "dead"...umm...what? During Make It Rain, you could go to the GS virtually any time of the day or night and it was packed. People have been posting how Aether had almost 150 end-game groups going in PF at once, and even one of the non-Aether DC's had around 100 (the majority of which were high-end duties). Heck, now with the new patch the Aether hunt trains have gone back to only announcing them on individual servers instead of DC-wide because of how over-populated and unwieldy they become if the wanderers join.

I think the person mentioning playing chess against pigeons in the other thread has it right...

[JohncarterIx]

in my alts fc we got 13 people and a lott of players out 365 days

[Atelier-Bagur]

I'm really confused as to what is delusional about what I said, I can pinpoint quite a few people that think the game is growing more and more over the past few months and that it's on a steadfast growth path

Also I'll have to block you yet again if you keep being disrespectful, you can disagree without being an ass about it.

I'd like to be proven wrong because the people I know who constantly defend this game arent THAT delusional.

Also I seriously dont care if you block me again, so go right ahead. The system is a big joke anyway since it doesnt fully work as intended.

[AlexiaD]

I'd like to be proven wrong because the people I know who constantly defend this game arent THAT delusional.

Also I seriously dont care if you block me again, so go right ahead. The system is a big joke anyway since it doesnt fully work as intended.

I cant name and shame them so not like I can do much lol

As for the second comment that's something we both can very much agree on