Pickings Are Slim, But This Really Isn't Okay, Is It?

[Shadow_Lilly]

On an other ward/city there was a plot that had a bridge between them and the plot on the other side of the path.. you couldn't walk thourgh to the other plots. Yes you could jump over fences etc, or walk around the houses... but it still isn't ok... I have reported them in game and after a few days the items that were blocking the road were gone.

[Kyssa]

On an other ward/city there was a plot that had a bridge between them and the plot on the other side of the path.. you couldn't walk thourgh to the other plots. Yes you could jump over fences etc, or walk around the houses... but it still isn't ok... I have reported them in game and after a few days the items that were blocking the road were gone.

Numerous people came out to report this plot. It was posted about on Reddit and Twitter. Nothing has been done for almost 6 months, and they're more than just blocking pathways. They're intruding on someone else's plot, and since they stacked stuff up in front of the other persons plot, that other owner gets stuck when porting to his own house.

[LianaThorne]

Numerous people came out to report this plot. It was posted about on Reddit and Twitter. Nothing has been done for almost 6 months, and they're more than just blocking pathways. They're intruding on someone else's plot, and since they stacked stuff up in front of the other persons plot, that other owner gets stuck when porting to his own house.

I doubt you'll see any resolution to this due to how Square views problem solving. They'll want the owners to work it out between themselves like adults and not get involved (which is the same mentality they use when dealing with stalkers). If it was done using glitches that were reverted back into the game intentionally by the devs, they won't flog the guy for doing that.

It would have to reach the point that it's turning violent or involving threats for the GMs to actually step in imo. So new owner can try to talk to the guy doing it, move or ignore it.

[Kyssa]

omitted due to my response length..

The only way these people could achieve the level of "glitch" that they have, is by using a 3rd party program. Apparently, the people that owned the plot above them had also reported them, then moved, and then we all found it like this when bidding on the empty plot opened.

The people doing it feigned total ignorance and played some stupid, silly game when confronted over this- but long story short, given the names they keep giving the house, the addition of their brag book, etc- it's clear they're doing this to be a gaggle of butt-dots. This kind of thing is definitely griefing when it comes to abusing someone else's plot, but toss in the multiple blocks they've erected in "public" walkways and they've broken more than just the no 3rd party rules.

SQ Enix is being complicity lazy in their ignorance of the issue, and as far as I'm concerned, after almost 6 months of pretending it doesn't exist, have given the green light to use whatever program/method you want to force your neighbors out, who were unlucky enough to win a plot near a bunch of infantile mouth breathers who suffer sore butts from not winning the plot they deemed theirs. Literally, all the victims of this did was win the plot.

It's further ridiculous that Sq Enix has to rush to take action when their lack of concern for the rules they themselves have laid out culminates in them getting and posting evidence of someone(s) using a 3rd party mod in their screenshot contest and they've gotta delete it before all hell breaks loose. The best part is, those people modding their character/clothing are not having any affect on those around them, while these Muttley-esque snickering fools continue to impede the use of the terrain in the game as developed.

There is no working it out with people like this. People who are reasonable enough to understand and care about the impact of their actions on others wouldn't behave like this in the first place. What they need, no, what they deserved, was swift and decisive action on the part of the supposed team that is in place to deal with issues like this. What Yoshi P and his team have succeeded in doing by ignoring this is make laughing stocks of their false indignation over the existence and use of 3rd party programs and make it abundantly clear that so long as their precious raid/contest rewards don't get trivialized, it's all good.

[Jojoya]

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Sometimes it pays to go to the top when problems like this aren't getting resolved through the usual channels. I know that a few have sent out tweets to the FFXIV_EN twitter about it but since that hasn't worked, time to take it higher.

Time for Twitter users to screenshot and send to YoshiP's Twitter with some appropriate tag like #FFXIVmyneighborhood and the full plot address. Invite him to come view it for himself and see how it "enhances" the ward for everyone who lives there or visits.

Wouldn't be the first time that something only got action because YoshiP had to see it for himself to understand that yes there are problems on NA worlds going ignored by SE. I'd do it myself except I'm not a Twitter user and have no interest in setting up an account just for this.

Something else that might work is getting one (or more) of the NA content creators that the development team tends to watch to post something about it from the perspective of the player who owns the house above (with that owner's consent). If the name of the FC and their plot number aren't specifically mentioned, it shouldn't be considered naming and shaming. It's simply a player who's sharing how a housing failure they have no control over has impacted their game experience.

Those doing it might get some temporary attention but it might also get them a perma-ban for using a third party tool to engage in nuisance behavior to intentionally disrupt another player's game experience. Each and every FC member (assuming that it's more than just the FC Master) that has the ability to place furnishings is responsible for leaving them where they are. What they've done is far outside what a rational person would do.

[AlexiaD]

Sometimes it pays to go to the top when problems like this aren't getting resolved through the usual channels. I know that a few have sent out tweets to the FFXIV_EN twitter about it but since that hasn't worked, time to take it higher.

Time for Twitter users to screenshot and send to YoshiP's Twitter with some appropriate tag like #FFXIVmyneighborhood and the full plot address. Invite him to come view it for himself and see how it "enhances" the ward for everyone who lives there or visits.

Wouldn't be the first time that something only got action because YoshiP had to see it for himself to understand that yes there are problems on NA worlds going ignored by SE. I'd do it myself except I'm not a Twitter user and have no interest in setting up an account just for this.

Something else that might work is getting one (or more) of the NA content creators that the development team tends to watch to post something about it from the perspective of the player who owns the house above (with that owner's consent). If the name of the FC and their plot number aren't specifically mentioned, it shouldn't be considered naming and shaming. It's simply a player who's sharing how a housing failure they have no control over has impacted their game experience.

Those doing it might get some temporary attention but it might also get them a perma-ban for using a third party tool to engage in nuisance behavior to intentionally disrupt another player's game experience. Each and every FC member (assuming that it's more than just the FC Master) that has the ability to place furnishings is responsible for leaving them where they are. What they've done is far outside what a rational person would do.

stop pretending they care about it, it's been 6 months. Enough has been done, they just dont care.

[Jojoya]

stop pretending they care about it, it's been 6 months. Enough has been done, they just dont care.

So then we should also stop caring?

[Kyssa]

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I have done all one person can do from using Twitter, which I deplore, to bug reports, to in-game reports, to special task force reports to Mister Foxclon's Neighborhood tweets. I have emailed gaming news sites. Heck, one reporter even Tweeted about it. Still ignored. From what I can see, and my daughter can see (she's more Twitter fluent than I am), Yoshi P. does not have a Twitter account anyways.

None of those actions should have even been necessary. More than 10 reports from random players should have done it... but I have definitely gone above and beyond anything I've ever had to do in my over 25 years of online gaming. If this type of player(s) is what Yoshi P. wants his game peopled with, then I wish the community well because though I love the game, someone, or a group of someones, is clearly being allowed to impede on something that "belongs" to another, totally unchecked- and gloat about it. That's not okay. If I wanted a toxic community, I'd have never left WoW.

[Solowing]

Sometimes it pays to go to the top when problems like this aren't getting resolved through the usual channels. I know that a few have sent out tweets to the FFXIV_EN twitter about it but since that hasn't worked, time to take it higher.

Time for Twitter users to screenshot and send to YoshiP's Twitter with some appropriate tag like #FFXIVmyneighborhood and the full plot address. Invite him to come view it for himself and see how it "enhances" the ward for everyone who lives there or visits.

Wouldn't be the first time that something only got action because YoshiP had to see it for himself to understand that yes there are problems on NA worlds going ignored by SE. I'd do it myself except I'm not a Twitter user and have no interest in setting up an account just for this.

Something else that might work is getting one (or more) of the NA content creators that the development team tends to watch to post something about it from the perspective of the player who owns the house above (with that owner's consent). If the name of the FC and their plot number aren't specifically mentioned, it shouldn't be considered naming and shaming. It's simply a player who's sharing how a housing failure they have no control over has impacted their game experience.

Those doing it might get some temporary attention but it might also get them a perma-ban for using a third party tool to engage in nuisance behavior to intentionally disrupt another player's game experience. Each and every FC member (assuming that it's more than just the FC Master) that has the ability to place furnishings is responsible for leaving them where they are. What they've done is far outside what a rational person would do.

If you go after them for 3rd party tools, youre gonna need to ban every BDTH user... No special exceptions.

[Kyssa]

If you go after them for 3rd party tools, youre gonna need to ban every **** user... No special exceptions.

I could honestly care less if someone uses that, and I don't think the devs do either, but the use of it in this instance is akin to using cheats to clear a raid and posting videos or screenshots of you doing it. First rule of fight club is don't talk about fight club. These people clearly didn't get the memo, or simply don't care.