The Limitation Dilemma: Why Final Fantasy 14's Limited Job was a Mistake

[Atelier-Bagur]

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It's not accidental it's just I'm sorry but it honestly feels like you're trying to overcomplicate your points and making excuses for the sake of your argument.

You're still bringing up the meta excuse which I keep telling you, Blue Magic isn't supposed to be balanced in the first place.

Then you keep saying about changing spell effects which I'm gonna tell you know ever since FFV introduced blue spells, every other FF game that reintroduced those same spells still retains those same effects for the most part. White Wind will always be a party heal based on your current HP, 1000 Needles will always be a static damage spell and so on and so forth.

Again youre missing the entire appeal of Blue Magic for it being a class that doesn't care about balance. If the class focuses too much about balance then we're back to square 1 with it being just another job that got neutered for the sake of the game's meta.

I'm sorry but your tldr arguments keep missing this basic point of why Blue Mage is Blue Mage.

[Zebraoracle]

It's not accidental it's just I'm sorry but it honestly feels like you're trying to overcomplicate your points and making excuses for the sake of your argument.

You're still bringing up the meta excuse which I keep telling you, Blue Magic isn't supposed to be balanced in the first place.

Then you keep saying about changing spell effects which I'm gonna tell you know ever since FFV introduced blue spells, every other FF game that reintroduced those same spells still retains those same effects for the most part. White Wind will always be a party heal based on your current HP, 1000 Needles will always be a static damage spell and so on and so forth.

Again youre missing the entire appeal of Blue Magic for it being a class that doesn't care about balance. If the class focuses too much about balance then we're back to square 1 with it being just another job that got neutered for the sake of the game's meta.

I'm sorry but your tldr arguments keep missing this basic point of why Blue Mage is Blue Mage.

Blue Mage's identity is being a magic user that uses monster abilities. That's it. It's identity isn't "I'm a broken mage that breaks the game". If that were the case, we wouldn't see each iteration of it after 5 be fairly weaker. I think 6 is the last time it was actually very strong, and even then you had other stuff like Sabin in the game to counter balance it. If you think BLU's identity and purpose is to be broken, then boy howdy do I wanna introduce you to Kimahri and FFTA.

And I never said change white wind from a party heal, I said adjust it to fit within the context of FF14. You're warping what I'm saying into something I'm not.

And, once again, I'm going to say, AGAIN, that this isn't an either or situation. You can have your game breaking abilities. A lot of them don't work on bosses anyways! You can still use them for tomestone farming!

But if you're just going to chalk what I said up to excuses and just call my post a tldr and not actually respond to it, then whatever, man. Keep living in this world where you let SE trample over things instead of holding them to an actual standard. Sucks foe the rest of us that lose out on our favorite jobs in the series, but oh well!

[IkaraGreydancer]

Blue Mage's identity is being a magic user that uses monster abilities. That's it. It's identity isn't "I'm a broken mage that breaks the game". If that were the case, we wouldn't see each iteration of it after 5 be fairly weaker. I think 6 is the last time it was actually very strong, and even then you had other stuff like Sabin in the game to counter balance it. If you think BLU's identity and purpose is to be broken, then boy howdy do I wanna introduce you to Kimahri and FFTA.

And I never said change white wind from a party heal, I said adjust it to fit within the context of FF14. You're warping what I'm saying into something I'm not.

And, once again, I'm going to say, AGAIN, that this isn't an either or situation. You can have your game breaking abilities. A lot of them don't work on bosses anyways! You can still use them for tomestone farming!

But if you're just going to chalk what I said up to excuses and just call my post a tldr and not actually respond to it, then whatever, man. Keep living in this world where you let SE trample over things instead of holding them to an actual standard. Sucks foe the rest of us that lose out on our favorite jobs in the series, but oh well!

You sour the discussion when you go off the assumption your standards are better or mean more than another's.

BLU is special because of how it currently works. Just saying. I wouldn't enjoy BLU working like the other jobs do.

[Zebraoracle]

You sour the discussion when you go off the assumption your standards are better or mean more than another's.

BLU is special because of how it currently works. Just saying

You're gonna say that and then immediately turn around and say "it's better this way" because you like the way it is? This is such a hypocritical post. Why is your standard better than mine? We can all have our opinions on the job, and I'm expressing my distaste in how SE has implemented one of my historically favorite jobs and trying to brainstorm ways to make it work. You come in here and say I'm claiming my opinion is better, but then state your opinion as if it is fact/better than mine. Okay dude.

[IkaraGreydancer]

You're gonna say that and then immediately turn around and say "it's better this way" because you like the way it is? This is such a hypocritical post. Why is your standard better than mine? We can all have our opinions on the job, and I'm expressing my distaste in how SE has implemented one of my historically favorite jobs and trying to brainstorm ways to make it work. You come in here and say I'm claiming my opinion is better, but then state your opinion as if it is fact/better than mine. Okay dude.

Reading comprehension. I never said better. I simply said it's special atm because of how it works differently than other classes. Nowhere did I say better. Nothing hypocritical at all. YOU are the one telling people to let them trample over them and that they arent holding SE to an actual standard.

Nowhere did I claim my standard is better...You're Cleary charged n upset and it shows. Calm down and take in what you're reading dude.