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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Cooldown reduction is tricky in a setting like FFXIV. Let's say lilies could reliably reduce the cooldown of certain actions by 50%. If we're talking about a healing resource like Tetragrammaton, that means we're taking a 60 second cooldown down to 30 seconds, but unless you use Tetra immediately, every second you're sitting on it after the 30 second cooldown is rapidly declining the value of the cooldown reduction effect.
    Is this supposed to be in response to the specific CDR idea above, or in general?

    The idea suggested above doesn't add to that problem, as it only rushes the still-cooling CD chosen rather than reducing the recast time of the next use (as per original Spear).

    It also doesn't rush/accelerate all CDs simultaneously... only the one chosen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I'm not a raider but I think unless the CDR is rng, and/or it resets the cooldown instead of reducing it (like Bard's Bloodletter during Mage's Ballad), people would be using the "new cd" consistently enough that they might as well reduce the ability's default cd altogether - wasn't that what happened with Assize at the end of SB?
    People were spending Stormblood Lilies on Assize simply because it was by far the best choice on which to spend Lilies (because its solely percentage-CDR favored accelerating long CDs, and of those long CDs, Assize was the only one worth accelerating). It wasn't particularly that they were trying to fit in an extra Assize per raid buff cycle (back then, the oGCD 400cp was still frequently vital for actual healing in Savage), but simply that it was the least wasteful option for an then-underpowered mechanic.

    Had the Lilies also reduced a flat amount of seconds (which in turn favors shorter CDs instead) and the CDR was immediate instead of applying to the next use, you'd likely have seen more varied spending, especially if they just didn't leave Assize so damn OP compared to everything else / everything else so lackluster relative to Assize.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-29-2023 at 07:05 AM.