CBU3. Please respect your players.

[Jojoya]

Since FFXVI is single player game, there isn't a reason not to have a difficulty mode be selected at the start of the game and turning it down during the progression like a lot of SP games do this. However, if FFXVI plays like Elden Ring as your example and you need your previous gear to make progression on subsequently playthroughs then it makes sense to lock but if not, then yea they CBU3 messed up on that bit.

That's the thing - the people passing judgment on the game's difficulty haven't even gotten that far to see how hard mode works let alone how difficult it is.

It doesn't help that they're clogging up the FFXIV forums with their FFXVI feedback just to have more reasons take their usual hostile potshots at anything associated with FFXIV and CBU3.

If they don't like how CBU3 designs games, then they should learn to stop buying games developed by CBU3. There are plenty of games I've tried over the years that I didn't like but I didn't spend months hanging around their forums trashing those games and their development teams.

Continuing to pay a subscription just to be able to hate on a game or a game company in the game's forums is hitting irrational levels of addiction/obsession.

[thevanguard]

That's the thing - the people passing judgment on the game's difficulty haven't even gotten that far to see how hard mode works let alone how difficult it is.

It doesn't help that they're clogging up the FFXIV forums with their FFXVI feedback just to have more reasons take their usual hostile potshots at anything associated with FFXIV and CBU3.

If they don't like how CBU3 designs games, then they should learn to stop buying games developed by CBU3. There are plenty of games I've tried over the years that I didn't like but I didn't spend months hanging around their forums trashing those games and their development teams.

Continuing to pay a subscription just to be able to hate on a game or a game company in the game's forums is hitting irrational levels of addiction/obsession.

I think it's maybe time for you to take a break from the forums. 7004 posts, 99% of which are defending CBU3, is hitting actual irrational levels of addiction/obsession.

[Jojoya]

I think it's maybe time for you to take a break from the forums. 7004 posts, 99% of which are defending CBU3, is hitting actual irrational levels of addiction/obsession.

Hi, Titanmen. I see you've temporarily gotten forum access for one of your alt accounts back.

If trying to discuss the realities of game development and tactics that big corporations use to make more money from dumb consumers is considered a defense of a company instead of an attempt to get players to wise up as consumers and get smart with their money, I'd say you have a strange definition of defending.

We've got a thread here with a bunch of upset posters who have been complaining about CBU3 for months. What do they do? Give CBU3 more money.

In the end, money turns out to be the best defense. It keeps the company in business.

I'm sure CBU3 would like to thank you for your defense of them.

[TheDecay]

Hi, Titanmen. I see you've temporarily gotten forum access for one of your alt accounts back.

If trying to discuss the realities of game development and tactics that big corporations use to make more money from dumb consumers is considered a defense of a company instead of an attempt to get players to wise up as consumers and get smart with their money, I'd say you have a strange definition of defending.

We've got a thread here with a bunch of upset posters who have been complaining about CBU3 for months. What do they do? Give CBU3 more money.

In the end, money turns out to be the best defense. It keeps the company in business.

I'm sure CBU3 would like to thank you for your defense of them.

Not a single post among your 7008 posts on this forum discussed reality. In fact, I have seen many falsehoods and dis-realities in your posts, such as 50 pages of you derailing this thread to claim that, essentially, RMT does not exist. You may claim otherwise, but what other conclusion can one reach when you, in typical contrarian style, argue against any and every observation of RMT activity in that thread, insisting that real players also engage in them?

I would highly encourage you to stop trolling and engage in discussion in good faith on these forums. You can start by laying off the paranoid conspiracy theories when you yourself very much seem like a paid employee.

[Jojoya]

Not a single post among your 7008 posts on this forum discussed reality. In fact, I have seen many falsehoods and dis-realities in your posts, such as 50 pages of you derailing this thread to claim that, essentially, RMT does not exist. You may claim otherwise, but what other conclusion can one reach when you, in typical contrarian style, argue against any and every observation of RMT activity in that thread, insisting that real players also engage in them?

I would highly encourage you to stop trolling and engage in discussion in good faith on these forums. You can start by laying off the paranoid conspiracy theories when you yourself very much seem like a paid employee.

I'd like to suggest that you stop the trolling and taking things out of context. I've never stated or even implied that RMT does not exist.

Yes, I'm talking about reality here and not the fantasy world in your head about how game development works.

If you want good faith discussion in these forums, set the example instead of arguing in bad faith yourself.

Which is funny because people have managed to clear TOP without any healers, showing how obsolete Healers are.

Since healers are truly obsolete, please show us a video of your personal healerless TOP clear.

[OM3GA-Z3RO]

Since healers are truly obsolete, please show us a video of your personal healerless TOP clear.

"Well go do it then" from the same 5 unpaid forum interns incoming in 3...2...1...

A little late but you came around in the end I guess.

Literal: "Well, if you don't like <This>, then I would like to see you do it better!" or "You have never done or achieved this, you have no right to criticize!"
An old argument to silence others to criticize. I have nothing to prove to you. If Yoshi actually admits that the game design is flawed then it would be the end of it but no, he believes that healers are fine because: "If YoU aRe BoReD, tHeN hEaL iN uLtImAtEs"
And people prove to him it's not.

[TheDecay]

I'd like to suggest that you stop the trolling and taking things out of context. I've never stated or even implied that RMT does not exist.

Yes, I'm talking about reality here and not the fantasy world in your head about how game development works.

If you want good faith discussion in these forums, set the example instead of arguing in bad faith yourself.

My dear lala, deflecting this back to me doesn't help your case in any way when you immediately launched into a bad-faith attack the very next line:

Since healers are truly obsolete, please show us a video of your personal healerless TOP clear.

Mayhaps people will be inclined to take you more seriously when you stop posting on the forums for the sake of "gotcha"-ing other people, as you've done across practically every subforum/board in the OF at this point. As has been repeated ad infinitum at this point: the TOP healerless clear is a symptom of a major design flaw, it's not the flaw itself. Of course, bad faith arguments tend to laser focus on people using that example to illustrate the scope of the problem because it's the easiest way to "gotcha" instead of engaging in, with good faith, a discussion of the myriad problems with healer design.

[Jojoya]

My dear lala, deflecting this back to me doesn't help your case in any way when you immediately launched into a bad-faith attack the very next line:



Mayhaps people will be inclined to take you more seriously when you stop posting on the forums for the sake of "gotcha"-ing other people, as you've done across practically every subforum/board in the OF at this point. As has been repeated ad infinitum at this point: the TOP healerless clear is a symptom of a major design flaw, it's not the flaw itself. Of course, bad faith arguments tend to laser focus on people using that example to illustrate the scope of the problem because it's the easiest way to "gotcha" instead of engaging in, with good faith, a discussion of the myriad problems with healer design.

The bad faith argument is that healers are obsolete.

99.9% of the player base will never be able to clear an Ultimate without a healer in the party. That something can be done by the top of the elite does not mean that everyone is capable of doing it let alone is doing it.

Again, if people want to claim that healers are obsolete then they need to prove that it can be done by anyone and the logical place to start is with themselves.

So start playing without healers and see how deep into content you manage to get before you realize that they are still necessary.

Every time someone replies to feedback and tries to discredit someone, they usually respond back harder. That's how this goes. So here's some more feedback so we can do this forever and ever.

XVI plays itself. Just like XIV
XVI doesn't have gradual difficulty. It's either on or off. Just like XIV
You have to beat the game to get even remotely difficult content. Just like XIV
The pacing is off, and story keeps going from grand epic to dull filler. Just like XIV
The RPG elements are completely gone. Just like XIV
It's a walking and fetch simulator with hours of cutscenes between. Just like XIV
Gil is worthless. Just like XIV
The world is barren and has no reason to explore. Just like XIV
There's way too much constant exposition about everything. Just like XIV
There are a lot of really cool systems, but all of them are half-baked. Just like XIV
The highs are as high as the lows are low. Just like XIV

I can talk about my pros too, but this is basically bait

7/10 game


I have a lot I love about XVI, but I'm not gonna sit here and lie about how I'm having the greatest time ever, that there's nothing wrong, CBU:III is perfect. Nah.. XVI heavily suffers from CBU:III syndrome.

So on brand, really. lol

Much of that makes it sound like the actual flaw with CBU3 is their inability to create midcore difficulty content and failure to add meaningful exploration opportunities to the open world.

That I wouldn't argue against. I know there had been hopes that Criterion might fill that void but Sil'dihn Subterrane turned into yet another it's either easy on Variant, very difficult on Criterion or extremely difficult on Criterion Savage but can't figure out how to design it for in between.

As for exploring, I would love those opportunities as well. Finding out why they don't put a little more effort in that area would be nice.

One question: what do you mean by "RPG elements are gone"? I see RPG elements all over the place in FFXIV and many from what I've seen in the FFXVI streams. RPG isn't a super narrowly defined set of design choices. It starts from a base - playing a role within the game's story/lore then expands from there. What's appropriate in one game may not be needed or appropriate in another.

[IkaraGreydancer]

That's the thing - the people passing judgment on the game's difficulty haven't even gotten that far to see how hard mode works let alone how difficult it is.

It doesn't help that they're clogging up the FFXIV forums with their FFXVI feedback just to have more reasons take their usual hostile potshots at anything associated with FFXIV and CBU3.

If they don't like how CBU3 designs games, then they should learn to stop buying games developed by CBU3. There are plenty of games I've tried over the years that I didn't like but I didn't spend months hanging around their forums trashing those games and their development teams.

Continuing to pay a subscription just to be able to hate on a game or a game company in the game's forums is hitting irrational levels of addiction/obsession.

I just find all this funny. People didn't complain about FF7R having its hard mode locked behind beating the game. But now that it's CBU3 on the now all of a sudden that's an issue. People would much rather write of something before trying it to make their point seem more "valid".

And yeah of some will clog the wrong games forums because they need to desperately prove the devs are bad and can't do anything/most things right.

Also careful there. You can't tell folks they shouldn't buy n play games they don't like/have issues with. It's a form of gatekeeping criticism and white knighting to some. Some folks just need to spend money in/on games they aren't enjoying n there's nothing you can say to them.

Edit: case and point. thevanguard. Telling people to stop buying games they don't like is irrational apparently lol
I've never seen so many people pay for something they don't like. Literally tells SE they don't need to change what you're complaining about.