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    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevanguard View Post
    I wonder why there is no autologin, couldnt possibly have to do with them wanting to advertise their new store purchases right? People thinking they dont have a store button ingame because of the devs kindness. No there isnt a ingame store button cause they are afraid to touch the UI code.
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  2. #212
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaionKansen View Post
    I'm so glad FFXIV brings in like 25-30 million a month from subs and game purchases alone just so Square can take all the money and have the FF team work on other games making the MMO overall worse
    Worse you say? How so exactly? And I'm talking factually, not your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    I mean if you're just going to say "I'm disingenuous in my comparisons" so loud that it deafens us I don't know why you're even posting.
    Mind to elaborate why am I being disingenuous? I don't know why you're posting blank words without any meat in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevanguard View Post
    Oh wow its on the login page. How evil.

    Yeah lets go over how theres a tab in the main menu for the cash shop thats hard to ignore in Diablo 4 again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Oh wow its on the login page. How evil.

    Yeah lets go over how theres a tab in the main menu for the cash shop thats hard to ignore in Diablo 4 again?
    Why are we tryin to justify this with a more egregious example? Both suck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Oh wow its on the login page. How evil.

    Yeah lets go over how theres a tab in the main menu for the cash shop thats hard to ignore in Diablo 4 again?
    So you admit in one case it's in your face and in one case it's on a tab on the main menu

    Glad you and I can finally agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Why are we tryin to justify this with a more egregious example? Both suck!
    Because login pages is where realistically cash shop ads should go without constantly intruding the main game?

    I ask again, where in the cross hotbar menu is there a tab to access the cash shop? None, the only place you can even touch it in-game is by purposefully going to the inn log off bed which almost no-one ever uses to log off from the game.

    Cash shops suck in general but Im here arguing over how intrusive it is in Diablo IV and in other games where they stick the shop right in your face as you play the main game. Thats not the case in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Mind to elaborate why am I being disingenuous? I don't know why you're posting blank words without any meat in it.
    I was hoping it was obvious given the fact that the screenshots were of entirely different characters of importance, but yes, I will elaborate since you insist on being dense.

    You're comparing The Pellar to a random peasant NPC. The Pellar serves a continuous purpose in The Witcher game, while the peasant NPC does not. What's more the image you took was low quality to begin with. You're literally saying "OH MUH GAWD LOOK AT THESE GRAPHICS FOR THE RANDOM PEASANT NPC HIDDEN OFF IN A CORNER! HE DOESN'T LOOK AS DETAILED AS THIS FAR MORE IMPORTANT NPC IN THIS OTHER GAME!"

    Lastly, there's far more accurate depictions of the limits of the PS5 in FFXVI, but most of them can't really be shown without spoiling the game. If you don't personally mind, you're free to look through the various later boss fights.
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    Last edited by CerusSerenade; 06-26-2023 at 10:54 PM.

  9. #219
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    I was hoping it was obvious given the fact that the screenshots were of entirely different characters of importance, but yes, I will elaborate since you insist on being dense.

    You're comparing The Pellar to a random peasant NPC. The Pellar serves a continuous purpose in The Witcher game, while the peasant NPC does not. What's more the image you took was low quality to begin with. You're literally saying "OH MUH GAWD LOOK AT THESE GRAPHICS FOR THE RANDOM PEASANT NPC HIDDEN OFF IN A CORNER! HE DOESN'T LOOK AS DETAILED AS THIS FAR MORE IMPORTANT NPC IN THIS OTHER GAME!"

    Lastly, there's far more accurate depictions of the limits of the PS5 in FFXVI, but most of them can't really be shown without spoiling the game. If you don't personally mind, you're free to look through the various later boss fights.
    Here are some more "fair" pictures if you want.
    First row are irrelevant side NPCs, second are main character's fiances/gfs (idk who that FF16 girl is), and last row are main characters. Pics are taken from youtube 4K playthroughs downscaled to 1080p, so youtube doesn't ruin bitrate that much. If you still insist to call me disingenuous, then I suggest to post your own comparisons to backup your claims.


    Don't forget the whole point that I was talking about - that people will be surprised if 16's PC port won't run on some ~2016 gen PC, when the game barely looks better than some 8 years old Witcher 3 or 7 years old FFXV. It's not even something FF16-specific, you can use it on many new gen games, that was all the argument was about, it wasn't some "FFXVI bad", it was about games being much more demanding nowadays, while having minimal upgrades.

    And yes, I've heard that FF16 depicts limits of PS5 well - performance mode which swaps to 720p and still struggles to maintain 60fps. If you want some comparisons for Eikon fights, look up FFXV's Leviathan boss fight, Titan' and some of the final fights.
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    Last edited by Deo14; 08-02-2023 at 12:28 AM. Reason: Removing all swear words from old posts so certain malevolent communities cannot spam report me and get me banned again

  10. #220
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Here are some more "fair" pictures if you want.
    First row are irrelevant side NPCs, second are main character's fiances/gfs (idk who that FF16 girl is), and last row are main characters. Pics are taken from youtube 4K playthroughs downscaled to 1080p, so youtube doesn't fuck up bitrate that much. If you still insist to call me disingenuous, then I suggest to post your own comparisons to backup your claims.


    Don't forget the whole point that I was talking about - that people will be surprised if 16's PC port won't run on some ~2016 gen PC, when the game barely looks better than some 8 years old Witcher 3 or 7 years old FFXV. It's not even something FF16-specific, you can use it on many new gen games, that was all the argument was about, it wasn't some "FFXVI bad", it was about games being much more demanding nowadays, while having minimal upgrades.

    And yes, I've heard that FF16 depicts limits of PS5 well - performance mode which swaps to 720p and still struggles to maintain 60fps. If you want some comparisons for Eikon fights, look up FFXV's Leviathan boss fight, Titan' and some of the final fights.
    Everytime I see Lunafreya it just reminds me of how dirty they did her. Man, when you care more about Iris, who is a walking anime trope, than the main female in the game, you know you done effed up.

    On topic: I think all of those look fine, except Benadikta's hair, I'm trying to imagine what she would look like without hair, and she's got some weird kind of head going on.
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