IGN FF16 review is almost like a critique of FF14's own issues

[Rufalus]

I'm only playing it for the MSQ now, and if 'Final Fantasy Mode' just means more hp, then I don't think my lil carpal tunnel wrists can take it. I wanted challenge, not spam.

It's a hard mode in the same way XIV hard dungeons are hard. The enemies are higher level than the first visit but so are you. Actual difficulty or length isn't altered much. It also turns off the icon display of QTE prompts but you already know to press the square button. I saw a trophy site give this game a 3/10 difficulty rating for obtaining the Platinum. You can still use the assist rings in Final Fantasy mode to make it play itself.

[Boblawblah]

5/10 game
9/10 movie

This sums it up for me, except it's not that great of a movie, I'd give it a 7/10 movie.

100% style, almost no substance. There's an identity crisis in this game for sure. DMC style action game? Not really, DMC players want to get to the action, FFXVI is doing everything it can to take you away from it. RPG? Nope, it's the least RPG game in the entire series.

With an mmo like FFXIV, I expect that the MSQ will be cutscene heavy, there's always a lot of side content I can do. FFXVI, that's the ENTIRE game. My order of time spent ranked went like this
1: cutscenes/dialogue.
2: walking forward
3: crazy long boss battles with QTEs and some normal fighting.
4: battles against little dudes

I don't have an exact count, but I'm willing to bet that's fairly accurate. I'm going to stop here, I'm annoyed right now (just finished it lol). There is a lot of good to the game, but everyone has already mentioned that.

[R041]

Yeah so far I'm reeeeally enjoying the game. I can understand the gripes like R041 feel about it but I also personally think people need to be more open to what the game is trying to do, because once you let go of those personal biases (for the record, this kind of style of game ISNT SOMETHING I WOULD PERSONALLY ENJOY) you can fully start to appreciate the experience its offering.

I really try to put my biases aside, I try to like it.. I like the story, the cast, and the general worldbuilding they got going on. They have great writers, VA, visuals, and they know how to make a game. But then when every story event throws enemies at me and they all die in 2 seconds, it makes the pacing of the whole thing feel really weird. That's not even an exaggeration, the only time I don't kill EVERYTHING on screen within 2 seconds, is if it's a fat dude or a mini-boss that just end up being a sponge for 5 minutes. I wish these were exaggerations. lol

The pacing and balance is all over the place and make 0 sense. Make it make sense! I'm already wishing for a remaster / rebalance, things are so jacked up in this game it's like everything but the story itself was a complete afterthought. Last minute "Oh, we have a world - We should probably put like, items in it or something. Just sprinkle 2 gil, blood hides, and fangs everywhere. Sweet. Let's go gold!"

I'm trying not to be picky, but these issues are so glaringly obvious most of the time.

[Jojoya]

XVI actively teaches you to avoid anything not MSQ, just like XIV.

That's weird. I've been watching content creators intentionally ignore the main story to do the side quests/hunts because many of them have beneficial rewards like a permanent increase to potion potency and new recipes for better gear (not to mention some of the materials to make that gear). Those side quests have become a priority when they appear.

Sounds like you went into the game with an intention to find reasons to hate it because of your feelings about XIV and so you're missing out.

Also wondering if you've already beat it on hard mode or if you're judging it solely on normal mode, which is intended to make the full story accessible to all audiences.

[R041]

That's weird. I've been watching content creators intentionally ignore the main story to do the side quests/hunts because many of them have beneficial rewards like a permanent increase to potion potency and new recipes for better gear (not to mention some of the materials to make that gear). Those side quests have become a priority when they appear.

Sounds like you went into the game with an intention to find reasons to hate it because of your feelings about XIV and so you're missing out.

Also wondering if you've already beat it on hard mode or if you're judging it solely on normal mode, which is intended to make the full story accessible to all audiences.

Nah, those side-quests with substance that you're talking about are a dime a dozen. It ain't like that. Almost all of them are Gil Bug, 20 Crafting Mats of garbage. Are you playing this game? No? Then don't act like you know what you're talking about. https://www.powerpyx.com/final-fanta...-quests-guide/


Reward: 5 XP, 1 Meteorite, 1 Gil Bug
Reward: 5 XP, 500 Gil, 10 Wyrrite
Reward: 18 XP, 10 Valley Madder, 20 Sharp Fang, 30 Bloody Hide
Reward: 20 XP, 100 AP, 1 Gil Bug
Reward: 18 XP, 10 Sharp Fang, 5 Bloody Hide
Reward: 20 XP, 100 AP, 10 Magicked Ash, 1 Meteorite
Reward: 18 XP, 1000 Gil, 10 Wyrrite, 10 Magicked Ash
Reward: 20 XP, 1000 Gil, 10 Wyrrite, 1 Meteorite
Reward: 20 XP, 20 Wyrrite, 10 Sharp Fang
Reward: 20 XP, 30 Wyrrite, 30 Sharp Fang, 1 Meteorite
Reward: 15 XP, 1 Gil Bug
Reward: 15 XP, 10 Sharp Fang, 1 Black Blood
Reward: 20 XP, 10 Wyrrite, 5 Steelsilk
Reward: 18 XP, 1000 Gil, 20 Steelsik, 20 Bloody Hide
Reward: 20 XP, 1100 Gil, 1 Meteorite
Reward: 18 XP, 1000 Gil, 25 Magicked Ash
Reward: 20 XP, 150 AP, 30 Magicked Ash
Reward: 18 XP, 20 Magicked Ash

Guess what I can spend all that gil on? Nothing, because it doesn't matter. I already have 100k from MSQ, and I never need to craft because I always somehow have the best gear after finishing story.

THERE IS NO HARD MODE UNTIL YOU BEAT THE GAME. It's Easy Mode, Easy Mode with Easy Rings, and Easiest Mode, Easiest Mode with Easy Rings.

Also, Content Creators always intentionally drag everything out, it's not about doing things of substance. It's about taking as much time as they can with everything so they can make as much money as they can from viewers. It's almost like we all have first hand experience with this in XIV. Jfc don't be so gullible.

It's extremely clear you don't know what you're talking about - Anyone that's played XVI can immediately understand what I'm saying about the balance of quests, monsters, gil, crafting, materials. Even talking in this thread acting like you know what you're talking about, only having watched the game makes you just a contrarian. I can give praise, but these issues are pretty glaring to most players that actually play the game for longer than 2 hours.

[Jojoya]

THERE IS NO HARD MODE UNTIL YOU BEAT THE GAME. It's Easy Mode, Easy Mode with Easy Rings, and Easiest Mode, Easiest Mode with Easy Rings.

I'm aware that completing the game on normal mode first is required to unlock hard mode. Thanks for clarifying that you haven't been able to beat the game yet even on easy mode yet. Got it. You're not in a position to judge just how hard the game can be then, are you?

You're right, I don't have a PS5 so I can't play the game. I'm limited to watching others who are playing it and sharing those playthroughs online. They have the things they like. They have things they don't like and they're honest about them. But overall, they're really enjoying the game and they are doing those side quests because they are getting rewards they feel worthwhile, even that gil you say is useless because there are things they want to buy and collect such as the orchestrion rolls. They're also looking forward to going through the content on hard mode once they've got it unlocked.

Strange how my friends who are playing the game are enjoying without complaint as well. I can't watch them as they play since they don't stream, though.

I'm not being gullible. Games are for relaxation and entertainment. They don't have to be difficult to be enjoyable. So sorry that game companies are trying to sell their games to a wide audience and so they include multiple difficulties to give everyone something to enjoy. So sorry your ego can't handle playing the same game as those who aren't looking for a difficult challenge.

Try getting back to us once you've completed the game on hard mode and then start complaining about how baby easy the game is. Or better yet, walk away from CBU3 games altogether since it's clear you've already made up your mind that you are not going to like any game it produces.

[TheDecay]

I'm aware that completing the game on normal mode first is required to unlock hard mode. Thanks for clarifying that you haven't been able to beat the game yet even on easy mode yet. Got it. You're not in a position to judge just how hard the game can be then, are you?

You're right, I don't have a PS5 so I can't play the game. I'm limited to watching others who are playing it and sharing those playthroughs online. They have the things they like. They have things they don't like and they're honest about them. But overall, they're really enjoying the game and they are doing those side quests because they are getting rewards they feel worthwhile, even that gil you say is useless because there are things they want to buy and collect such as the orchestrion rolls. They're also looking forward to going through the content on hard mode once they've got it unlocked.

Strange how my friends who are playing the game are enjoying without complaint as well. I can't watch them as they play since they don't stream, though.

I'm not being gullible. Games are for relaxation and entertainment. They don't have to be difficult to be enjoyable. So sorry that game companies are trying to sell their games to a wide audience and so they include multiple difficulties to give everyone something to enjoy. So sorry your ego can't handle playing the same game as those who aren't looking for a difficult challenge.

Try getting back to us once you've completed the game on hard mode and then start complaining about how baby easy the game is. Or better yet, walk away from CBU3 games altogether since it's clear you've already made up your mind that you are not going to like any game it produces.

In other words, you would much rather everyone dissatisfied with the game to simply leave so that any avenue for feedback to the developers becomes an echo chamber - sometimes even filled with people who never played the game defending CBU3 on their behalf. What a hateful, small-minded comment.

[Katt_Felista]

FF16 is not a final fantasy in the sense that it lacks everything that makes fantasy, mythology in final fantasy games, mythical creatures, the stapple and rpg elements of final fantasy games, while the demo presents the best part of the "edgyness" of the story as a bait the core of the game is very bland, boring, a walking simulator of a medieval fantasy, and you can almost remove entirely the fantasy out of medieval fan, it's too safe, the characters all lack "character", Clive is extremely passive, doesn't shine of any particular character's trait, and even less the secondary characters.

I want to oppose what the bland and grey boring world of FF16 is, to what FF4, and more recent as a magnum opus of real final fantasy "magic" to it's peak, Final fantasy 9. FF16 is devoid of too many things and treat it's rpg elements like second class citizen systems, it's a good capcom combat system with a very uninteresting non really fantasy story on top of it.

[Shinkuno]

You're right, I don't have a PS5 so I can't play the game.

"I didnt even play the game but let me shill for my favourite company!"

[RitsukoSonoda]

Playing it right now. Story isn't bad. However feels like an action game and not an RPG. Gameplay is reduced to how well you press buttons (provided you aren't cheesing it with the crutch accessories). ATM nearly all the thought elements of RPGs appear to have been removed much like this game. About the only strategic element I see atm is choosing which Eikons and abilities to slot once you get far enough to have choices. Visually the game is very pretty... However am I the only one that feels like Clive looks a bit too much like this game's flagship Derplander?

Also why no Carbuncle Dominant? I want to see someone turn into a cute fluffy animal... >.>