Congratulations on FF16 being a huge success

[Jojoya]

I get it the rpg's in general have cutscenes but when a majority of your game is literally movie and not much gameplay then you basically paid $70 for a CGI movie then a game

If you only play through the main story and ignore the rest of the content, then it's going to feel like a CGI movie.

Most players aren't ignoring the other content so the game is more 5% cutscene and 95% game play.

I don't have cutscenes while crafting and gathering.

I don't have cutscenes when I'm doing FATEs and leves.

I don't have cutscenes when I'm doing hunts.

I rarely have cutscenes when I'm doing side quests.

The cutscenes when I'm doing roulettes are generally minimal (outside of the MSQ roulette and getting certain ARR trials in trial roulette).

I understand that some players aren't all that interested in story and would rather be just slaughtering monsters all the time but that's why they're better off playing other games such as ARPGs instead of a story-driven RPG.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Not sure why anyone is surprised by it. This is investing into the future. FF14 isn't going to be here forever, and the game is still at the top of the MMO market. Course a lot of you that post here somehow think Summoner is bad, when it's being played now more than it ever was.

More challenging, class builds, lore is pretty good.

D4 a challenge? It's a macrotransactionfest and is extremely unbalanced with a select few builds (with the right RNG dropped loot) destroying the hardest difficulty already without any effort. Class Builds don't matter when the top class/build is that much better than everything else. Such as Whirlwind Barbarian being better than every Druid Build combined by miles.

The only "Challenge" is Streamers doing Hardecore then purposely making silly mistakes to farm content or purposely playing the worst builds as those are more funny to look at then just destroying everything with the best build.

Lore is good? It barely acknowledges the events of D3, the game that came before it. We still don't have a conclusion to Leah's story which was promised during D3 but was promptly cut as they instead chose to chase the Esport scene and Seasons.

D4 is so full of macrotransactions at launch and will only escalate as players already beat the entire game in less than a week. Why, Players can already max their Battlepass in less than a minute if they have a credit card and has a FOMO infested Item Shop that resets weekly thus encouraging players to get all the premium currency that they can so that they don't "miss out", a strategy that WoW has used and still uses.

https://www.ggrecon.com/guides/diablo-4-monetisation/ - Already has all this. All of this Macrotransactions. Disgusting.

[Stormpeaks]

Not sure why anyone is surprised by it. This is investing into the future. FF14 isn't going to be here forever, and the game is still at the top of the MMO market. Course a lot of you that post here somehow think Summoner is bad, when it's being played now more than it ever was.



D4 a challenge? It's a macrotransactionfest and is extremely unbalanced with a select few builds (with the right RNG dropped loot) destroying the hardest difficulty already without any effort. Class Builds don't matter when the top class/build is that much better than everything else. Such as Whirlwind Barbarian being better than every Druid Build combined by miles.

The only "Challenge" is Streamers doing Hardecore then purposely making silly mistakes to farm content or purposely playing the worst builds as those are more funny to look at then just destroying everything with the best build.

Lore is good? It barely acknowledges the events of D3, the game that came before it. We still don't have a conclusion to Leah's story which was promised during D3 but was promptly cut as they instead chose to chase the Esport scene and Seasons.

D4 is so full of macrotransactions at launch and will only escalate as players already beat the entire game in less than a week. Why, Players can already max their Battlepass in less than a minute if they have a credit card and has a FOMO infested Item Shop that resets weekly thus encouraging players to get all the premium currency that they can so that they don't "miss out", a strategy that WoW has used and still uses.

https://www.ggrecon.com/guides/diablo-4-monetisation/ - Already has all this. All of this Macrotransactions. Disgusting.

Yeah those very strong cosmetic armor giving all these stats

lmao, they are just cosmetics, if I am wrong please correct me, but as it looks like they are just cosmetics, FFXIV has a million of them too and I dont see you complaining

(post I quoted has now removed the pic but they used a pic showing cosmetic armor)

[Shinkuno]

Yeah those very strong cosmetic armor giving all these stats

lmao, they are just cosmetics, if I am wrong please correct me, but as it looks like they are just cosmetics, FFXIV has a million of them too and I dont see you complaining

FF14 cosmetics good, Square Enix good, Diablo cosmetics bad, Blizzard bad - Taris Ebonhart

Its clear the guy hasnt played a single minute of the game. But if he wants to karmafarm the "Blizzard bad" stuff, he could just go to the FF14 Reddit lmao.

[Rufalus]

Come back to me once you actually complete the game. As I also will come back to you once I finish FFXVI and see if this statement holds any value.

I just saw the full thing and it improved my opinion. While not the way I wanted the series to go gameplay-wise it does get better when more eikon powers are unlocked, and some of the characters are very well written and funny. Great Greagor's gash! CBU3 make high-quality games in their own unique flavor. I just need to get over them not being made for me.

[Theodric]

Not sure why anyone is surprised by it. This is investing into the future. FF14 isn't going to be here forever, and the game is still at the top of the MMO market. Course a lot of you that post here somehow think Summoner is bad, when it's being played now more than it ever was.



D4 a challenge? It's a macrotransactionfest and is extremely unbalanced with a select few builds (with the right RNG dropped loot) destroying the hardest difficulty already without any effort. Class Builds don't matter when the top class/build is that much better than everything else. Such as Whirlwind Barbarian being better than every Druid Build combined by miles.

The only "Challenge" is Streamers doing Hardecore then purposely making silly mistakes to farm content or purposely playing the worst builds as those are more funny to look at then just destroying everything with the best build.

Lore is good? It barely acknowledges the events of D3, the game that came before it. We still don't have a conclusion to Leah's story which was promised during D3 but was promptly cut as they instead chose to chase the Esport scene and Seasons.

D4 is so full of macrotransactions at launch and will only escalate as players already beat the entire game in less than a week. Why, Players can already max their Battlepass in less than a minute if they have a credit card and has a FOMO infested Item Shop that resets weekly thus encouraging players to get all the premium currency that they can so that they don't "miss out", a strategy that WoW has used and still uses.

https://www.ggrecon.com/guides/diablo-4-monetisation/ - Already has all this. All of this Macrotransactions. Disgusting.

Diablo 4's cash shop is extremely subtle, to the point of it being easily missed if you don't go explicitly looking for it. That being said, it's strange to call out Blizzard for supposedly being 'greedy' when it comes to optional purchases when posting on the official forum of a game that has emotes locked behind statues that cost a good £200 with limited availability.

It's the nature of the industry. Game development is extremely expensive, especially for games that are supported with new content over time. So optional, luxury items are dangled before players with a disposable income in a way that is ultimately no different to how optional, luxury items are available at a supermarket or restaurant.

I think it's fine to criticise such things, though consistency is key. In general, I take complaints from game journalists with a hefty pinch of salt on that front.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Yeah those very strong cosmetic armor giving all these stats

lmao, they are just cosmetics, if I am wrong please correct me, but as it looks like they are just cosmetics, FFXIV has a million of them too and I dont see you complaining

(post I quoted has now removed the pic but they used a pic showing cosmetic armor)

You seem to forget what FOMO is (they are purposely cycling items every week to create the FOMO effect) and that with them having to constantly develop new content into the store means that they are taking away time/resources from the game. See D3 where they abandoned their promised story plans, after Reaper expansion, and just went full in on the Season grinds.

Course I don't expect you to understand how FOMO works or a cycling shop. It's just beyond your understanding.

Not to mention that the game was at min - $70, then there was the ultimate edition and being able to start a week early and can literally buy out your Battle Pass just as long as you want to use your credit card. Something that anyone, who wants to "compete", is required to do or they may as well not even bother.

[anna-steele]

You seem to forget what FOMO is (they are purposely cycling items every week to create the FOMO effect) and that with them having to constantly develop new content into the store means that they are taking away time/resources from the game. See D3 where they abandoned their promised story plans, after Reaper expansion, and just went full in on the Season grinds.

Course I don't expect you to understand how FOMO works or a cycling shop. It's just beyond your understanding.

Not to mention that the game was at min - $70, then there was the ultimate edition and being able to start a week early and can literally buy out your Battle Pass just as long as you want to use your credit card. Something that anyone, who wants to "compete", is required to do or they may as well not even bother.

theres no fomo at D4. its a base game that is on the GAAS model. seasonal will have the stupid battlepass with goofy cosmetics only, the free track has all the in game stuff. the store cosmetics are all ugly, unlike the cool ones here. i played quite a bit of diablo 4 so far, a cool game, JMO

but i like ff14 the best

[Theodric]

I had to look it up but $70 translates into £55 which is roughly standard for the base edition of a new game these days, with special additions being up to double that.

My recent game purchases have included Final Fantasy XVI, Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Diablo 4 and The Elder Scrolls Online: Necrom, all of which cost me between £50 - £100 to acquire them in time for launch day.

They're all from different companies and have differing monetisation practices but the presence of such doesn't make them utterly terrible in an industry unfortunately very reliant upon them.

Besides, the first thing I see when I open up the FFXIV launcher is a huge advert for the latest mount to be added to the cash shop.

[anna-steele]

I had to look it up but $70 translates into £55 which is roughly standard for the base edition of a new game these days, with special additions being up to double that.

My recent game purchases have included Final Fantasy XVI, Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Diablo 4 and The Elder Scrolls Online: Necrom, all of which cost me between £50 - £100 to acquire them in time for launch day.

They're all from different companies and have differing monetisation practices but the presence of such doesn't make them utterly terrible in an industry unfortunately very reliant upon them.

Besides, the first thing I see when I open up the FFXIV launcher is a huge advert for the latest mount to be added to the cash shop.

ah necrom, that means when i sub again ill get the high isle for free. LOL