How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

[Bunnycake]

It's reopened now.

[Fawkes]

It's reopened now.

We did it, reddit!

[ZephyrMenodora]

It's reopened now.

It's opened in restricted mode so the community can vote. It's not fully open yet.

It seems like pretty much every response is requesting they fully reopen.

So much for the vast majority supposedly wanting an ongoing blackout...

[Bunnycake]

It's opened in restricted mode so the community can vote. It's not fully open yet.

It seems like pretty much every response is requesting they fully reopen.

So much for the vast majority supposedly wanting an ongoing blackout...

It's open enough to find info. I miss ShitpostXIV tho

[Iscah]

So much for the vast majority supposedly wanting an ongoing blackout...

They wanted it last time they were polled, and the plan from the start was to reassess it later, which they have now done.

The general drift from the comments didn't seem to simply be "we don't want to protest" but "enough other subreddits have ended their protests that continuing ours won't help".

[ZephyrMenodora]

They wanted it last time they were polled, and the plan from the start was to reassess it later, which they have now done.

The general drift from the comments didn't seem to simply be "we don't want to protest" but "enough other subreddits have ended their protests that continuing ours won't help".

I saw their original poll. A whole 800 comments (assuming there aren't repeats) out of 800K users...

They also don't seem to have a poll at all, they are just counting comments.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I saw their original poll. A whole 800 comments (assuming there aren't repeats) out of 800K users...

They also don't seem to have a poll at all, they are just counting comments.

Only 800 comments (960 now) but 11000 up votes. If people disagreed I don't think that would be the case.

[Chie_M]

Only 800 comments (960 now) but 11000 up votes. If people disagreed I don't think that would be the case.

People upvote for visibility, especially for polls. It's not just used as an "I agree" button.

[Eorzean_username]

People upvote for visibility, especially for polls. It's not just used as an "I agree" button.

I don't know what version of Reddit you've been using, but I have rarely ever seen human nature use that site as "I disagree with this, but will upvote it anyway for Visibility™".

Nearly invariably Downvote = "I don't personally like this".

Also, "official" posts (like weekly stickies, etc) usually get barely any votes, because everyone can see it's stickied and from a mod and therefore feels it doesn't need their support or encouragement.

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Anyway, just to make clear: I am not saying that anyone was wrong for feeling irritated about being inconvenienced, or having your daily routine disrupted. That is a normal reaction.

Instead, I was trying to stress that the intended purpose — site-wide, not just on r/ffxiv — went far above and beyond characterisations of "petty power tripping", which I think is a grotesque oversimplification born out anger and frustration, rather than facts.

Reddit moderators are volunteer unpaid everyday people, so it's not surprising that they have many of the same flaws as other everyday people. I also personally think that r/ffxiv is poorly-moderated and a dumpster-fire of a subreddit. And I've been on the receiving end of obvious petty abuses of moderator power myself throughout my time using Reddit, so I'm well aware of the overall flaws in the system.

So I'm not trying to argue that moderators are ideal people who can do no wrong; I'm simply saying that in this specific case, the site-wide concerns were quite legitimate, and that there will very likely be long-term consequences to quality of information and functionality now that momentum is fizzling out and Reddit will clearly get its way with the changes.

Especially as its the user of said reddits that make it thrive not the mods themselves who don’t contribute much.

I don't think most people understand just how much work the average volunteer moderator actually does in order to keep your favorite subreddit looking clean, presentable, and functioning — capitulating to their requests to retain access to tools that make their job "doable" is a request that frankly benefits everyone, not just them.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Only 800 comments (960 now) but 11000 up votes. If people disagreed I don't think that would be the case.

The thread with 11K upvotes wasn't even the voting thread. It was the announcement of the reddit issues.