How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

[SilversLyu]

Best case people will just flock to other sites we all know and cherish. Doubt Reddit will change much. Let it go broke. But the status quo will probably continue.

[Nitelancer]

I sent a message to the mods and got an auto reply back that they will open on June 19th after which they will conduct a vote on whether the blackout should continue. Imo, it's very selfish to hold other people's content hostage. The art, the guides, the conversations and advice that were posted there belong to the people who posted them and not the mods. For the mods to hold all that content hostage, which was neither produced nor belongs to them, without the explicit permission of the posters is not right regardless of the cause.

If posters want to remove or self-censor their content from reddit, that would be one thing, but blocking access to other posters' content is completely wrong and immoral.

[AlexiaD]

I sent a message to the mods and got an auto reply back that they will open on June 19th after which they will conduct a vote on whether the blackout should continue. Imo, it's very selfish to hold other people's content hostage. The art, the guides, the conversations and advice that were posted there belong to the people who posted them and not the mods. For the mods to hold all that content hostage, which was neither produced nor belongs to them, without the explicit permission of the posters is not right regardless of the cause.

If posters want to remove or self-censor their content from reddit, that would be one thing, but blocking access to other posters' content is completely wrong and immoral.

Whatever will you do without the ART and the content of reddit ? oh my god, I wonder how people live their every day life without REDDIT, it's like blood going through your veins, you need it to be able to go on in life

The ART !!!! The ART !!!! My catgirl pictures !!! It's IMMORAL !!

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

The unofficial ff14 discord mods being a bunch of power trippers who abuse their power while letting their friends bully and break their own rules? I'm shocked!

[Nitelancer]

It's the principle of the matter. Reddit's API changes are overblown. Don't like the app or website? Just stop going there, or go there less often. But taking control of people's content without their permission is wrong.

[Nitelancer]

Also, it's funny that you talk as if the people against blackouts are the ones that use reddit the most, when in fact they're the ones that use it the least because they couldn't care less about API changes and 3rd party apps.

[Iscah]

The Reddit moderators are not the ones who came up with guides, tips, and discussions that were used to help the community.

It isn't a moderator's job to come up with content; it is to moderate – delete spam and rule-breaking content so what remains is the useful on-topic stuff that people want to see.

I can't say I fully understand the current issues myself, but apparently the changes are going to make it more difficult to keep on top of the amount of spam coming in.

I don't know who the mods are and I can't read their minds, but I find it hard to believe that every moderator on every subreddit is suddenly delighting in keeping people out of the information they have worked hard to keep organised.

[AwesomeJr44]

How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

By getting the reddit mods to stop thinking that they are more important than they actually are. In other words, you can't. They're too busy going on a power trip right now.

"please reopen the reddit for my convenience because i dont care about anything else but myself"

Rare Stormpeaks L take.

[Mosha]

All of these should just be consolidated into one. We really should not have to sift through discords and old websites that are filled with confusing and outdated information in order to find what we need. Google searches bring up Reddit as the top answer the majority of the time, and it's a pain that so much information is locked on the website so now we have to go hunting. This game needed something like WoWhead yesterday; it's just a nightmare.
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Going to be real I don't know why people struggle to find information about this game it's pretty well-documented if you know where to look.

[Meltemi]

I can't say I fully understand the current issues myself, but apparently the changes are going to make it more difficult to keep on top of the amount of spam coming in.

r/AskHistorians had a lovely write-up here with a follow-up here. I'm neither a prolific contributor nor reader, so I don't pretend to have experience with Reddit-particular quirks. To summarize what has been presented, however:

1. Effective moderation, especially of larger subreddits, relies on a wide range of tools that rely on the API and are unavailable via Reddit. Identifying posts that violate the rules, automating functionality, and moderating while away from a desktop all would be made far more difficult or impossible with the changes at the current price point. In Reddit's own app, moderators cannot see which posts have been reported by users as requiring moderation, cannot see removed posts by their peers for review (and revert, if required), cannot see what actions are required. Moderation becomes limited to when a moderator happens to be physically sitting at their desk instead of being able to receive automatic notification and pop in whenever and wherever an issue arises.

2. Any user with visual impairments cannot use the Reddit mobile app well or at all. This one is particularly close to home to me due to working with programs for the disabled for some time in college, and it's thus one that sticks out to me. Reddit hasn't cared about accessibility in the last nine years, presumably because they haven't been large enough of a user base to be monetizeable and turn a profit. This is a gap currently filled only by third-party apps, and it is a gap that will be forced open again when those apps are removed. Supposedly, Reddit has promised they will review accessibility features in the future, but...

3. Reddit has regularly made promises of new features to replace much of what is being destroyed, but is closing off free access to the API in advance of these new features. They have been offered compromises such as a phased implementation as replacement Reddit alternatives become available; these compromises have been rejected by Reddit. They've promised new moderator features that have yet to materialize in the last eight years, requested to combat hate speech and disinformation as well as ordinary ToS violations. They've rolled back promises about features implemented as "opt-in" that were later made required. It seems a decade of broken promises has created an air of mistrust that would make compromise difficult even if both sides were amenable.

From what I've seen, it appears that this is a pretty big straw, but it's the last in a larger pile that's been building for some time.