Thank you to the moderators

[Zebraoracle]

I concede the point. You are in fact correct, so thank you.

Trust me, I do not think this game needs official parsers in any sort of content outside of savage/ultimates, that's just pointless. The merits of one for savage/ultimate vs ACT and "don't ask don't tell" has been talked into the ground by now though lol.

[VelKallor]

I am going to ask one question. Please dont clobber me but God I have to ask as this has been driving me nuts.

Who or what in the name of the Twelve is a "Zodiark trancer'? I am getting serious Tim Thomerson vibes here..or is this something I really dont want to know?

[Zebraoracle]

I am going to ask one question. Please dont clobber me but God I have to ask as this has been driving me nuts.

Who or what in the name of the Twelve is a "Zodiark trancer'? I am getting serious Tim Thomerson vibes here..or is this something I really dont want to know?

I'm *pretty sure* I don't have the full correct answer, but part of it at least is I'm pretty sure they're a group that hated the EW story and wanted Zodiark to be the hero instead of Hydaelyn. With some stuff thrown in from some random user who DM'd me a while back on discord (I have no idea who that user was, and they've since deleted what I'm guessing was a throwaway account), I'm suspecting there's also 4chan culture aspect to it as well, but this is just speculation on my end.

[Hurlstone]

You know I used to think I was one of the biggest Hydaelyn simps here, but never got invited to any secret club... *sobs*

His 2 accounts have been banned at least, GaiusDrakon and TitanMenII. Are the mods back from vacation or something? Pretty surprising.

TitanMenII is gone umm, too? Wow, perhaps there is a God...

[Fawkes]

I am going to ask one question. Please dont clobber me but God I have to ask as this has been driving me nuts.

Who or what in the name of the Twelve is a "Zodiark trancer'? I am getting serious Tim Thomerson vibes here..or is this something I really dont want to know?

I think "Zodiark Trance" is supposed to be like SMN's Dreadwyrm Trance? idk that never clicked for me I just thought it was a weird name.

I found this post insightful:

Actually the term originates from a fan fiction comic which a fairly good artist made, detailing his OC version of Azem confronting Hydaelyn and using a, "Zodiark Trance" to channel dark power and fight her by himself. Rather than being fans of Zodiark, the, "trancers" are mostly fans of the Ascians/Ancients. This translates to being fans of Zodiark, but not a lot of them are really stuck on liking Zodiark, since Zodiark doesn't get a lot of characterization.

They aren't upset that their fanfiction didn't come true. It's more, they're upset that the protagonist centered morality inherent in XIV's narrative let Hydaelyn/Venat off too easy, breaking a lot of characterization for most of the Scions as well as making the WoL complicit with her deeds via informing her about her future, thus planting the idea to do what she did.

I don't remember who started referring to them as trancers in the first place, but it was only after that comic came out and got bashed that I started seeing it.

They argued their piece for a couple of years, but most of them quit back in like February. Now they mostly talk about Elder Scrolls Online or other games outside of the FFXIV spaces in their discords, though they do check in here from time to time.

It's kind of funny, because they're seen as a big, homogenous group that's all shadowy and sinister and out to get people for liking Endwalker. But about all they really do is still argue about it on Twitter once or twice a week, and keep to themselves.

I guess I'm technically one of them, but I'm unable to embrace the rivalries and drama at every turn. There's a lot of stuff I don't even know about fully, going on, on places like Reddit and 4chan. Sometimes it feels like they just respond to tweets or show they don't like Endwalker to remind people that they're still around and it's OK to not like it. Mainly to spite the people willing to doxx them/ DM them death threats etc.

[Zebraoracle]

I think "Zodiark Trance" is supposed to be like SMN's Dreadwyrm Trance? idk that never clicked for me I just thought it was a weird name.

I found this post insightful:

A better explanation than mine, thank you.

[VelKallor]

Ah. I see. Okay. Weird, but okay.

I'm suspecting there's also 4chan culture aspect to it as well, but this is just speculation on my end.

Oh GAWD. Now Im sorry I asked.

[Soge01]

Isn't EderTheBro one of his alts? There's also TitanWoman and I think two other of his alts that are still around. Either way, he'll be back as always. Best to troll the troll back, report and move along, lol!

[VelKallor]

I dont know if MAC bans are possible with this software, I DO know that on another forum I used to frequent, they DID actually use one on an individual who....how shall we say this, needed a reality check and some time outside.

Harsh yes, but in this guys case? It was needed. He was um...not kind with a lot of racial epithets. You will understand if I dont give examples. I felt dirty reading that stuff.

[AwesomeJr44]

*the Vyrerus quote*

Yeah, this is pretty much it tbh. Someone made a comic where the WoL "Zodiark Trances" and people started memeing on it as the dialogue was admittedly a little cringy. (I'm fairly sure the author's main language wasn't English either) It basically means a person that likes the Ancients/Ascians more than the heroes and/or dislikes the 6.0 story.

I'd go get the picture but the subreddit is still down over the blackout nonsense. It still shows up in Google images though.

I have never said this game is perfect ( BTW I do NOT appreciate having someone claim I said otherwise when I never DID, thank you. )

You're really hung up on this.

During a mass casualty training exercise, we were trained in triage. What does that mean? Knowing that you cant save some no matter what you do and you MUST leave them. You have no idea how I felt when the examiner said "She has internal injuries, we dont have time, leave her and move on"

Leaving someone to die because you can't help them and murdering innocent people because they can't solve a problem they don't even know exists aren't the same thing. Not sure where the Venat discussion is coming from though.