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  1. #291
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    In-Lore, In-Game mounts should ALWAYS be ingame obtainable.
    Cash shop mounts can be recolours or cross-franchise mounts.

    This is the root of the problem with Sleipnir, Cruise Chaser and now the Shadowkeeper.


    But also, there is an ethical issue: microtransactions are always bad, moraly and ethically bad. That bad gets normalized doesn't make it right. Being well adjusted to a sick society is indeed, bad.
    So is timegated content (PvP mounts/achievements/collectables, seasonal event titles, achivements, the firmament, one-time cross events).

    The reasoning and behavior of microntransactions defenders are no diferent from drug addicts

    Those things are actually predatory on neurodivergent people, there is no reasonable or ethical excuse to defend a cash shop, much less in a subscription based access game.
    This is a little bit disingenuous. I mean, yes- we can absolutely talk about the predatory nature of micro transactions and what is or isn't fair regarding prices/types of items available.

    BUT, it is hardly unusual for a variety of businesses to add extra purchases:

    Disney has a paid-for fast pass system. Disney also has seasonal, limited-edition items you can buy.
    Cruise ships have additional fees for excursions, etc.
    If we're going purely digital- my local hospital charges for wi-fi and/or using cable TV on a per-day basis.
    Amazon Prime has many movies/shows locked behind additional fees.

    We don't have to like these things, and I would agree there should be more outrage for some of this stuff (like wtf Disney, $100 per person just to enter, plus $5-15 for a one-time-use line skip???)..

    BUT, again, it isn't fair to compare this to drug addiction.
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  2. #292
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    SilversLyu's Avatar
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    Neni Feanie
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    Summoner Lv 100
    It's all mogstation? Astronaut meme: "Always was"
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    It's probably the job i'll level cap the last because i think it looks stupid. You're just throwing donuts at stuff while making weird mating call movements.

  3. #293
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    Dionysius's Avatar
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    Zeack Crosse
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    Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venjenz View Post
    Maybe I am missing why this is a big deal?
    Quality is a big deal for me, name one mount that is better than this mogstation one. Because I can't since Al-iklil from Bozja 2-3 years ago.

    Since then we have Cruise Chaser, Giant Shiba, Paissa, etc. If people enjoying getting thrown stupid reskin onions, magicked children's bed after paying for sub and box game price, congrats you are stupid and love being bullied by a giant corporate.
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  4. #294
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    Quality is a big deal for me, name one mount that is better than this mogstation one. Because I can't since Al-iklil from Bozja 2-3 years ago.

    Since then we have Cruise Chaser, Giant Shiba, Paissa, etc. If people enjoying getting thrown stupid reskin onions, magicked children's bed after paying for sub and box game price, congrats you are stupid and love being bullied by a giant corporate.
    Aerodynamics system, fenrir, anden 3, battle lion/bear/panther/tiger, black pegasus, all dogs, ponies, black jack, cloud mallow, demi ozma, garland gl-II, gobwalker, island madragoras, Ixion, logisticks node and system, Megaloambystoma, Miw Miisv just to name a few

    One of my favourites is actually falcon with it switching into 3 different modes.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 06-16-2023 at 04:09 PM.

  5. #295
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    Shin Kuno
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Aerodynamics system, fenrir, anden 3, battle lion/bear/panther/tiger, black pegasus, all dogs, ponies, black jack, cloud mallow, demi ozma, garland gl-II, gobwalker, island madragoras, Ixion, logisticks node and system, Megaloambystoma, Miw Miisv just to name a few

    One of my favourites is actually falcon with it switching into 3 different modes.
    Most of your list are very low quality. Fenrir is an atrocious mount model and texture wise. Its an insult for the amount of MGP that one costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Most of your list are very low quality. Fenrir is an atrocious mount model and texture wise. Its an insult for the amount of MGP that one costs.
    oh so basically you're one of those kids "I want the new toy cause my new toy now looks shite" got it.
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  7. #297
    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    oh so basically you're one of those kids "I want the new toy cause my new toy now looks shite" got it.
    Dion: name a mount with better quality
    You: names a list full of of low quality mounts
    Me: calls them low quality
    You: So you want the new one cause old one is low quality?

    thinkemoji
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  8. #298
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Dion: name a mount with better quality
    You: names a list full of of low quality mounts
    Me: calls them low quality
    You: So you want the new one cause old one is low quality?

    thinkemoji
    but that's the thing they're not low quality youre just talking out of your arse.

    p.s amazing how the mounts only became low quality after one you liked was put on mogstation.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 06-16-2023 at 05:22 PM.

  9. #299
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Most of your list are very low quality. Fenrir is an atrocious mount model and texture wise. Its an insult for the amount of MGP that one costs.
    Fenrir is also a model from ARR so it's inevitable that it will be lower quality than one produced for late Shadowbringers.

    I don't think exact quality is as important as liking the look of the mount. The Shadow Wolf might be high quality but it's also ugly to me so the quality is irrelevant.
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  10. #300
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    The problem with basing an argument off of "quality" is that it's largely down to personal preference. I think the Shadowkeeper mount is ugly as sin, personally. And not, like, in a good way, like the Cavalry Drake.
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