Really? They put Shadowkeeper on the Mog Station?

[Naoki34]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...431c623c688c03



This should be FREE, Square Enix. Why do they insist on putting popular mounts after popular mounts behind shit no one wants to do or make it $30? Who are the developers who made this so expensive? After Cruise Chaser why did you do this again?

Square Enix you better listen to your paying customers who paid $80 just to play Shadowwalker. You're going TOO FAR.

This is literally consumer abuse and I just filed a report to the Better Business Bureau, so get ready to receive another one-star review.

Well, listen, they always need money. AAA games cost a huge amount of money and an army of devs, and other trades. (People grossly underestimate the cost of a video game these days, which runs into the hundreds of millions of dollars.) To avoid selling the game at an indecent price, they make up for it with Mogstation.

Personally, if it's nice, I'll take it,mounts and attires (I must have 15 attires). I realized I was a whale without realizing it, but as long as I have 2500 days of subscription and it's my main game where I always come back to it, I'm fine with it.

That said, all this is optional and cosmetic, so it's up to you to buy or not. Nobody's forcing you to buy. It's not like all those gatcha that urge you to pay by pressing on your frustration.

When you consider the profits made by Gatcha Made in China (and its recently released game) and the money it brings in, I find this model relatively healthy. It's more or less a way of supporting your streamer on Twitch.

People with too much money have already pounced on day one, just to show that they can afford it without a second thought.

I admit it lacks imagination to release any boss or mobs, but whatever...


This time, I'll pass.
Put some nice Asian clothes back on, I'll take it day one, if it's well done without clipping bugs (e.g. the princess attire...)


Unlike the noisy and complaining minority of the FFXIV gaming community, Yoshi-P and his dev team are doing a pretty good job. When I see how many crappy MMOs come out with more promises than achievements. It's easy to cry foul over cosmetics.

In the end, you agree, you pay.
You don't, you don't. And it won't involve you in the problem any more than that. Except maybe when you run into the show-off who's going to afk mount/glowing stuff, but that's a worry between you and your ego.

[AlexiaD]

Well, listen, they always need money. AAA games cost a huge amount of money and an army of devs, and other trades. To avoid selling the game at an indecent price, they make up for it with Mogstation.

Personally, if it's nice, I'll take it, frames and attires (I must have 15 attires). I realized I was a whale without realizing it, but as long as I have 2500 days of subscription and it's my main game where I always come back to it, I'm fine with it.

That said, all this is optional and cosmetic, so it's up to you to buy or not. Nobody's forcing you to buy. It's not like all those gatcha that urge you to pay by pressing on your frustration.

When you consider the profits made by Gatcha Made in China (and its recently released game) and the money it brings in, I find this model relatively healthy. It's more or less a way of supporting your streamer on Twitch.

People with too much money have already pounced on day one, just to show that they can afford it without a second thought.

I admit it lacks imagination to release any boss or mobs, but whatever...


This time, I'll pass.
Put some nice Asian clothes back on, I'll take it day one, if it's well done without clipping bugs (e.g. the princess attire...)

Aww the poor small indie company

[AnnRam]

Small indie company.

Please look forward.

[Naoki34]

Aww the poor small indie company

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Don't you have a real argument?

[Stormpeaks]

So long !
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Don't you have a real argument?

Do you ?

"oh my god the poor small indie company they need to make mog shop purchases because they have developers for their game" no shit like every other game ? what a discovery that games have developers, you are a genius arent you ?

Unlike the noisy and complaining minority of the FFXIV gaming community, Yoshi-P and his dev team are doing a pretty good job. When I see how many crappy MMOs come out with more promises than achievements. It's easy to cry foul over cosmetics.

And then you write this, and you talk to me about arguments ? lmao, right back at you buddy

[Malakii]

I'll never understand why people get so upset about such things; if you don't want to spend money on digital content, then don't buy it, no one is forcing you. I appreciate when a company adds items that aren't bound to grind or endgame content, either inside the in-game store or as seasonal events, since not everyone likes to play that way.

Some people want to escape real life and play a game. Some people are rich, some people are poor. Store items bring their real-life back into the game and can remind them of the issue they are going through. I mean me personally I grew up in a day an age when all games were at face value and your sub got you everything available in the game. No loot boxes, no stores, and no extra digital items besides preorders, and those didn't normally have in-game items but other things. Some people like collecting things, well in this game if you don't have extra cash then don't even bother unless you don't care about truly collecting it all. At least they haven't touched triple traid and put any card on the store.... yet =). I have watched my favorite game franchises as a child turn into absolute garbage due to these tactics. Halo 2 was the shit. Now look at the Halo franchise. This game didn't always have a store either and I personally wished it stayed that way, but it didn't and won't ever go back. I am not delusional but it's pretty easy to understand why people don't like this stuff the only issue I see is complaining about it on forums does not do any good. You have to take your cash elsewhere but everyone has normalized paying for digital products in online games so you dont really have anywhere to go. There are a few solo-player gems that exist. I am all for paying a higher monthly fee, but I also realize that could cut down the player base that could afford to play it. I just don't like incentivizing companies to create teams since that is what se states outside of the development of the game to create in-game products for the game. Its not SE guys its that woman yoshida refers to. She is scary and yet SE is the one that owns the ip and allows this to happen in the first place.

[Voltyblast]

Well, listen, they always need money. AAA games cost a huge amount of money and an army of devs, and other trades. (People grossly underestimate the cost of a video game these days, which runs into the hundreds of millions of dollars.) To avoid selling the game at an indecent price, they make up for it with Mogstation.

The whole point of a subscription base game is that you pay to get the content inside said game, with the money required to upkeep the servers.
Paying for a subscription would inquire that we have something in return, stuff like content, in game rewards, etc. That's how it has always been - with a cash shop being something of an extra.
The keyword here is extra, as in "stuff alongside the stuff you already can get in the game".

If the subscription isn't enough for running this game, maybe they should stop wasting money on pointless updates and focus on what matters.
Are you telling me the multi trillionaire company, famous for games such as Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, can't support its servers without a simple sub? I ask because there are other games, that have fewer players than this game mind you, which have online servers and are perfectly fine with a cash shop AND without a sub too. But apparently an octillion company can't just run via subs and requires a cash shop.

Say what you will about it, but WoW's cash shop has a lot of actual extra stuff that doesn't matter as you can get the best mounts and transmogs in the game by simply running old content - 2 seated dragon? 2 seated bike? Hivemind? All inside the game for you to get. Heck if WoW ever did what FFXIV does there would be a riot up theirs.

FFXIV is lucky to have such hardcore defenders, to the point of actively defending microtransactions and extra features like extra retainer behind paywalls.

Because I'm fairly sure if any other game did the same, it wouldn't be so lucky.

[psychoEclipse]

Well, listen, they always need money. AAA games cost a huge amount of money and an army of devs, and other trades. (People grossly underestimate the cost of a video game these days, which runs into the hundreds of millions of dollars.) To avoid selling the game at an indecent price, they make up for it with Mogstation.

Personally, if it's nice, I'll take it,mounts and attires (I must have 15 attires). I realized I was a whale without realizing it, but as long as I have 2500 days of subscription and it's my main game where I always come back to it, I'm fine with it.

That said, all this is optional and cosmetic, so it's up to you to buy or not. Nobody's forcing you to buy. It's not like all those gatcha that urge you to pay by pressing on your frustration.

When you consider the profits made by Gatcha Made in China (and its recently released game) and the money it brings in, I find this model relatively healthy. It's more or less a way of supporting your streamer on Twitch.

People with too much money have already pounced on day one, just to show that they can afford it without a second thought.

I admit it lacks imagination to release any boss or mobs, but whatever...


This time, I'll pass.
Put some nice Asian clothes back on, I'll take it day one, if it's well done without clipping bugs (e.g. the princess attire...)


Unlike the noisy and complaining minority of the FFXIV gaming community, Yoshi-P and his dev team are doing a pretty good job. When I see how many crappy MMOs come out with more promises than achievements. It's easy to cry foul over cosmetics.

In the end, you agree, you pay.
You don't, you don't. And it won't involve you in the problem any more than that. Except maybe when you run into the show-off who's going to afk mount/glowing stuff, but that's a worry between you and your ego.

I think that many forgets how in-game shops are kinda a "donation" method towards the company, but yeah...keeping a game in good status is pricey and requires hard work.

[Oizen]

this image will never not be relevant to these forums

[KitingGenbu]

I like how the mogstation gets more content than endwalker

Sad part is its actually true. MS gets updated monthly (sometimes twice a month). Nice to see that the delayed update schedule didn't slow down MS updates.