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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    There is nothing illegal or even immoral with making a product and selling it for a price. Clearly there’s a market for it as they keep making more and more of them.

    If you or others don’t want it, don’t buy it. If enough ppl don’t buy it, SE stops putting in orders for more mounts.

    It’s not like this mount would ever end up for free anyway, as the dev costs to make it a mount in the first place comes from funds generated from sales on the mogshop.
    You pay a monthly fee, as do dozens of others. Sometimes more if there’s a patch. That’s a lot of money. It might not be illegal but it’s definitely scummy. The model also exists in the game already, literally just zone into e10 litany. It’s exactly the kind of lazy “what’s this down the side of the sofa we can fob them off with” mentality that achievement mounts tend to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    got to make up for losses when Final Fantasy XVI and VII Rebirth don't meet sales expectations. because we all know that Square Enix puts impossibly high demands on sales figures.
    Correct hammer, wrong nails. SE makes some big games without the words final and fantasy in their title and those uhhhh, didn't do so well haha.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britha View Post
    The store grows more and more bold with higher quality exclusive items every time
    ::: looks at all of the one-piece cosplay outfits lately :::;

    Higher quality every time. Riiiiiight.......
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingale View Post
    It's an optional item. You want it, then buy it, if not, ignore it
    Stop giving into corporations lmao
    At this rate the fabled bahamut mount won't be for a big anniversary it'll be 200 dollars on the mogstation
    There is WAY too many mounts going on the store lately
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I dont see how an OPTIONAL mount has any bearing on a games quality. FF 14 is quality gaming in every sense.
    "...for future endeavors LIKE THIS". Not talking about any other aspect of the game besides the online store. Pointing out the 9 unrelated good things doesn't make the 1 bad thing disappear.
    If you want more mounts that should have been in game in the first place to be sold on the online store, then yeah I guess there is no problem.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Actually customer B thinks that the mount should only be for "raiders", so they can feel "speshul"
    It doesn't need to be a raid mount lmao. this could've been for a relatively easy achievement or even gold saucer MGP
    Either of those would be miles better than $$$ station, for the players
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Then...dont buy it?
    "just ignore the horrible corporate practice impacting in-game item quality! you don't have to buy it, BUT I SURE WILL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    You pay a monthly fee, as do dozens of others. Sometimes more if there’s a patch. That’s a lot of money. It might not be illegal but it’s definitely scummy. The model also exists in the game already, literally just zone into e10 litany. It’s exactly the kind of lazy “what’s this down the side of the sofa we can fob them off with” mentality that achievement mounts tend to get.
    Would you prefer they not make any additional Mogstation stuff at all, ever? And would you prefer the benefits for all players that come from Mogstation purchases not exist? To date on record, this includes about a quarter of available housing wards.


    They wouldn’t be making these things if there wasn’t additional money in it. The products simply would t exist.

    As a person who doesn’t purchase anything on the mogshop, but has benefited from it (hello my beachfront house!), I don’t want to buy the things, but I am glad they exist.

    None of it is pay to win, so I just can’t agree that it is scummy or otherwise taking advantage of people. Even if it only took an hour to develop this specific mount, those are billable hours that could go elsewhere. Money that could go elsewhere, even outside of this game. And of note, unless they have changed their policy, those billable hours that are paid for by other Mogshop purchases.


    I would call it scummy if it was something like EA did w/ those star wars lootboxes. Where certain characters took thousands to unlock, and said characters were absolutely better than stock free ones. In this, you get what? A black edgelord wolf? A mount you are gonna forget about in 6 months anyway?

    It’s business, targeting the whales. It’s what many businesses do, and it pays the bills.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 06-13-2023 at 06:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    BLU content has always been released at the end of the expansion. So not sure why you'd expect earlier announcements.
    Yes, but in previous expansions they actually mentioned updates or future plans. BLU didn't even get so much of a peep from Endwalker's fanfest onward. They literally didn't say a single word about it until very recently.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Would you prefer they not make any additional Mogstation stuff at all, ever? And would you prefer the benefits for all players that come from Mogstation purchases not exist? To date on record, this includes about a quarter of available housing wards.
    Yes.
    I don't understand, is this meant to be a gotcha?

    I also don't believe that the housing wards aren't paying for themselves. How many empty spots are there and how many more subscriptions does that lock in.
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    Last edited by fulminating; 06-13-2023 at 06:18 PM.

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