Really? They put Shadowkeeper on the Mog Station?

[Britha]

Imagine actually defending this.
The store grows more and more bold with higher quality exclusive items every time and the quality of in-game items in comparison seems to be going down.
It used to be just old event items and a few custom outfits.
There's no defense for this growing practice and I'm surprised I see people in this thread doing just that as if it's okay.

[VelKallor]

Imagine actually defending this.

Then...dont buy it?

[Reimmi]

Then...dont buy it?

"just ignore the horrible corporate practice impacting in-game item quality! you don't have to buy it, BUT I SURE WILL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"

[Avoidy]

lmao
you wanted to play the game and work for that?? looool
nah just whip out credit card!!

it operates like a f2p game at this point. if you defend this you're a clown.

Imagine actually defending this.
The store grows more and more bold with higher quality exclusive items every time and the quality of in-game items in comparison seems to be going down.
It used to be just old event items and a few custom outfits.
There's no defense for this growing practice and I'm surprised I see people in this thread doing just that as if it's okay.

but how will they fund ff16 commercials and forespoken's shitty sequel if they're not milking xiv's player base every month??? without our help, square enix will starve! please look forward to it!

[kaynide]

Imagine actually defending this.

There is nothing illegal or even immoral with making a product and selling it for a price. Clearly there’s a market for it as they keep making more and more of them.

If you or others don’t want it, don’t buy it. If enough ppl don’t buy it, SE stops putting in orders for more mounts.

It’s not like this mount would ever end up for free anyway, as the dev costs to make it a mount in the first place comes from funds generated from sales on the mogshop.

[fulminating]

There is nothing illegal or even immoral with making a product and selling it for a price. Clearly there’s a market for it as they keep making more and more of them.

If you or others don’t want it, don’t buy it. If enough ppl don’t buy it, SE stops putting in orders for more mounts.

It’s not like this mount would ever end up for free anyway, as the dev costs to make it a mount in the first place comes from funds generated from sales on the mogshop.

You pay a monthly fee, as do dozens of others. Sometimes more if there’s a patch. That’s a lot of money. It might not be illegal but it’s definitely scummy. The model also exists in the game already, literally just zone into e10 litany. It’s exactly the kind of lazy “what’s this down the side of the sofa we can fob them off with” mentality that achievement mounts tend to get.

[kaynide]

You pay a monthly fee, as do dozens of others. Sometimes more if there’s a patch. That’s a lot of money. It might not be illegal but it’s definitely scummy. The model also exists in the game already, literally just zone into e10 litany. It’s exactly the kind of lazy “what’s this down the side of the sofa we can fob them off with” mentality that achievement mounts tend to get.

Would you prefer they not make any additional Mogstation stuff at all, ever? And would you prefer the benefits for all players that come from Mogstation purchases not exist? To date on record, this includes about a quarter of available housing wards.


They wouldn’t be making these things if there wasn’t additional money in it. The products simply would t exist.

As a person who doesn’t purchase anything on the mogshop, but has benefited from it (hello my beachfront house!), I don’t want to buy the things, but I am glad they exist.

None of it is pay to win, so I just can’t agree that it is scummy or otherwise taking advantage of people. Even if it only took an hour to develop this specific mount, those are billable hours that could go elsewhere. Money that could go elsewhere, even outside of this game. And of note, unless they have changed their policy, those billable hours that are paid for by other Mogshop purchases.


I would call it scummy if it was something like EA did w/ those star wars lootboxes. Where certain characters took thousands to unlock, and said characters were absolutely better than stock free ones. In this, you get what? A black edgelord wolf? A mount you are gonna forget about in 6 months anyway?

It’s business, targeting the whales. It’s what many businesses do, and it pays the bills.

[fulminating]

Would you prefer they not make any additional Mogstation stuff at all, ever? And would you prefer the benefits for all players that come from Mogstation purchases not exist? To date on record, this includes about a quarter of available housing wards.

Yes.
I don't understand, is this meant to be a gotcha?

I also don't believe that the housing wards aren't paying for themselves. How many empty spots are there and how many more subscriptions does that lock in.

[kaynide]

Yes.
I don't understand, is this meant to be a gotcha?

I also don't believe that the housing wards aren't paying for themselves. How many empty spots are there and how many more subscriptions does that lock in.

My point was, there are aspects of this game that are paid for by mogshop that go beyond just mogshop items. I am happy to benefit from that, whatever it even may be, despite not spending a dime.

If you aren’t, that’s your prerogative, but either way MS is here to stay, love it or hate it.

[FF14Xanz]

My point was, there are aspects of this game that are paid for by mogshop that go beyond just mogshop items. I am happy to benefit from that, whatever it even may be, despite not spending a dime.

If you aren’t, that’s your prerogative, but either way MS is here to stay, love it or hate it.

weird, when i went over the financial reports for every quarter in endwalker and shadowbringers and saw that since stormblood theres been no increase to budget at all, i would not have drawn this conclusion.
i wonder where you get this info from, the fact yoshi said it in a live letter?
that's not definitive proof beyond your faith, unfortunately.
the fact is sub numbers have only increased since heavensward, budget into production has never been higher than stormblood and was in fact lower for both shadowbringers and endwalker, their most critically and financially successful expansions yet.
that budget does include patch content.
if mog station was to actually go back into the game, then whatever it's been earning has been equally stolen out of the original budget garnered by subscription numbers and income.
which is just as wrong anyway, and you are enabling.