Tank balance and what CBU3 wants to do with job balance

[Tint]

You could actually just do TBN (to get 50 Blood on barrier break) > DA > Abyssal until your MP ran low > Blood Weapon > Delirium and watch your MP go back to full to continue the DA > Abyssal spam.

Well I wasn't that comfortable with tanking big trash pulls without my tank stance on :x

And of course that 3 step "combo" for using DA Abyssal wasn't my usual way of play, but it was something I could use when I ran out of other options.

[Shurrikhan]

Old Blood weapon gave you MP for every enemy hit with physical damage, so a single Delirium was enough to instantly get your MP back up.

I think you're referring to Quietus here? Delirium just granted immediate MP and extended either Blood buff's duration (they were mutually exclusive in Stormblood).

And the funniest feature, imo, was that Blood Weapon also gave 5 Blood per hit, so against 10+ enemies, its use refunded itself, allowing one to DA-Quietus as long as Blood Weapon was up (with whatever portion of DA-ADs added in for self-healing, and ofc, up to another 50 per 12 seconds via popping Stormblood TBN, which was usually how you'd jump-start it in the first place).

[Absurdity]

I think you're referring to Quietus here? Delirium just granted immediate MP and extended either Blood buff's duration (they were mutually exclusive in Stormblood).

Yeah, I did mean Quietus.

Well I wasn't that comfortable with tanking big trash pulls without my tank stance on :x

And of course that 3 step "combo" for using DA Abyssal wasn't my usual way of play, but it was something I could use when I ran out of other options.

I didn't start out with dropping Grit either, until I realized that DA Abyssal easily generated enough enmity that I would never have to worry about mobs running off and I really didn't need the 20% passive mitigation with all the selfheal. And you could always just throw in a Dark Passenger to generate more enmity than you'd ever need or even DA it for extra mitigation.

[GoatOfWar]

I will say that right now, WAR really feels like an Omni-Job to me. Damage was the one thing it didn't have, now that it does its feels like its the optimal job in all forms of content.

I don't even really see how they plan on fixing this because I'd honestly rather see Tank sustain nerfed than it handed out to the absolute absurd levels that are Nascent/Bloodwhetting/Shake, playing the job this savage tier has shown me how hilariously effective (and free) it is just to make a Nascent Flash Macro and mash it on cooldown is when you're not needed. P11s is particularly guilty for this.

Not really sure what (if anything) is going to be done about it but it is disheartening

It is what the streamers fought for. ''The healing doesn't matter bro'' When it clearly does. As a Dark knight, my mitigation isn't leaps ahead to where i don't need a healer. I can pop 4 mits and i'll have maybe 10% more hp than a Warrior would, after which Warrior still has a hilarious amount of healing they're still sitting on. The job is simply overpowered now that it is also the highest damage tank on top of having the best of everything else.
Best partywide, best sustain, best invuln, best damage. The job needs to be nerfed.

[Oizen]

It is what the streamers fought for. ''The healing doesn't matter bro'' When it clearly does. As a Dark knight, my mitigation isn't leaps ahead to where i don't need a healer. I can pop 4 mits and i'll have maybe 10% more hp than a Warrior would, after which Warrior still has a hilarious amount of healing they're still sitting on. The job is simply overpowered now that it is also the highest damage tank on top of having the best of everything else.
Best partywide, best sustain, best invuln, best damage. The job needs to be nerfed.

Said streamers are now fighting that WAR should have more raw mitigation as well, so expect Bloodwhetting to get bumped up to 30% mit next patch. Maybe even throw some on thrill of battle because thats an incredibly niche skill apparently.

[GoatOfWar]

Said streamers are now fighting that WAR should have more raw mitigation as well, so expect Bloodwhetting to get bumped up to 30% mit next patch. Maybe even throw some on thrill of battle because thats an incredibly niche skill apparently.

Please tell me you're being sarcastic..

[Pibz]

The real question is why choose any tank class at all between them when they have all been watered down to essentially the same job

But hey, that's what you get when people just blindly praise a game, you get this disfigured husk of a parody of its former self

[Rithy255]

Said streamers are now fighting that WAR should have more raw mitigation as well, so expect Bloodwhetting to get bumped up to 30% mit next patch. Maybe even throw some on thrill of battle because thats an incredibly niche skill apparently.

If they give warrior lower then Paladin damage I'd be fine with this.

[Zarkovitch]

It's time to hope some changes.

[ValkyrieL]

Seems to me DRK are salty since they been on top since start of expansion....now that warrior finally get comparable dps at the END (like always) of expansion when it no longer matters other tanks are crying.