Why They Return to put Exclusive item for TOP 100 again?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Like I said, if they add the glowing token spendable with trophy crystals instead, people will try to get it by doing Ranked and maybe Casual either way.
This isn't, Ranked should get something special, Casual stay poor topic. There are no sides here, stop imagining you're the honorary member of Ranked players and people complaining are filthy casuals.

There are lack of stuff to use with trophy crystals, you get 90% of those garbage from BattlePass, the only thing you can trade in is one fucking X materia for every 4000 trophies, before went through multiple stupid trade windows.
Imagine getting 6x Grade X materias from 4.5 months Battlepass with clicking all those windows to get it.

And instead of use the new reward to fix this problem, they went back to their old sick habit again.

Ok that "honorary member of ranked players" comment gave me quite a laugh, thank you. Make no mistake tho, Im not trying to be a saviour or mouthpiece, Im only giving my input as a ranked player because I want to see the mode thrive - you thinking Im imagining this as "people complaining are filthy casuals" is projection by you alone.

So to be clear, I understand completely that you are annoyed on how little Trophy Crystals can be effectively spent on, I get that and I support improvements in that system. I think they are a great system fundament, but it needs either a desirable currency sink for those with excess crystals and/or needs better/more rewards and consumables tied to it. At this point Id even suggest an equivalent to current PVE tier crafted gear so you can use PVP as alternate progression. And return old Battlepass stuff as well, ppl want the Archfiend set to return after all.

Short, yes Trophy Crystals has problems and Im all for improving it.

However, either out of willful ignorance or simply being unable to see beyond your own scope of interest, you simply don't get or want to get why Commendation Crystals (Ranked currency) got introduced in the first place. The primary purpose of them is purely to incentivize Ranked play, regardless if people like that or not or how well it will perform in that.

I am massively at odds with suggestions like "make the ranked thing purchasable with Trophy Crystals" because that defeats the entire purpose of that ranked currency. I don't give two f***s that some casual pvper finally gets access to Augmented Hellhound weapons, I do give a lot more than two if it meant Ranked player retention and incentivization had to tank further because of it. Ranked has enough of a hard time as is which isn't fixable with "fun improvement" alone.

Keep ranked currency in ranked, fix Trophy Crystals being meh in other ways.

[Dionysius]

I am massively at odds with suggestions like "make the ranked thing purchasable with Trophy Crystals" because that defeats the entire purpose of that ranked currency. I don't give two f***s that some casual pvper finally gets access to Augmented Hellhound weapons, I do give a lot more than two if it meant Ranked player retention and incentivization had to tank further because of it. Ranked has enough of a hard time as is which isn't fixable with "fun improvement" alone.

Keep ranked currency in ranked, fix Trophy Crystals being meh in other ways.

You're assuming people don't do Ranked for Trophy Crystals or Series level, I say it's the opposite. If they put more stuff to buy with Trophy Crystals, more people will play Ranked thus "incentivizing" it in a more effective way than making exclusive stuff to attract elitist and smug people into it.

[Astralrisk]

You're assuming people don't do Ranked for Trophy Crystals or Series level, I say it's the opposite. If they put more stuff to buy with Trophy Crystals, more people will play Ranked thus "incentivizing" it in a more effective way than making exclusive stuff to attract elitist and smug people into it.

Even with a much more substantial amount of stuff in the crystal trophy shop, I don't think anyone would be willing to go through ranked solely just to get more crystal trophies. It would be much easier to go into Casual or Frontlines farm out series xp much more faster, efficiently, and with much less stress.

[Dionysius]

Even with a much more substantial amount of stuff in the crystal trophy shop, I don't think anyone would be willing to go through ranked solely just to get more crystal trophies. It would be much easier to go into Casual or Frontlines farm out series xp much more faster, efficiently, and with much less stress.

People are afk-ing and some do nothing in Casual it's actually more stressful, I want to have fun while farming lmao.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

You're assuming people don't do Ranked for Trophy Crystals or Series level, I say it's the opposite. If they put more stuff to buy with Trophy Crystals, more people will play Ranked thus "incentivizing" it in a more effective way than making exclusive stuff to attract elitist and smug people into it.

If you truly think that a tiny extra surplus of Trophy Crystals at the end of a season and the fundamentally equal Battle Pass EXP is what drives Ranked participation in the first place then you are out of your goddamn mind.

Yes you can get Series EXP and Trophy Crystals just as well from Ranked as you can from Casual, but that is not justification, that is an issue. If you see a benefit from having more competent games, great! But other than that Series EXP and Trophy Crystals are no more reason to do Ranked than to do Casual. If they improve Trophy Crystal vendor, it will drive more engagement in PvP in general with Ranked only receiving a scrap share of this, due to path of least resistence being Casual.

This isn't me assuming shit, this is me comparing both modes and their rewards, restrictions and benefits.

Also lowkey annoyed of the bullshit narrative that exclusive stuff purely attracts elitists as you call them.

[Towa-Musa]

Also lowkey annoyed of the bullshit narrative that exclusive stuff purely attracts elitists as you call them.

that's just how people see it when they see square keep handing you things
people are quite tired of it.

[Astralrisk]

that's just how people see it when they see square keep handing you things
people are quite tired of it.

Pretty sure SE has given casuals more things to access over the last four major patches than Ranked has ever gotten. Not saying it as a reason you deserve to get less since adding more casual rewards to the game (more pvp vendor items/better series rewards) is just plain better for everyone both groups. However, a reward for people who manage to get into diamond/crystal/top 100 is fine.

[Towa-Musa]

Pretty sure SE has given casuals more things to access over the last four major patches than Ranked has ever gotten. Not saying it as a reason you deserve to get less since adding more casual rewards to the game (more pvp vendor items/better series rewards) is just plain better for everyone both groups. However, a reward for people who manage to get into diamond/crystal/top 100 is fine.

You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.

I feel like I should post this page on the other thread for my post so I can highlight that Astralrisk is actually right, there is more for wolfmark/casual.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...h-stress/page4

[Astralrisk]

You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.

I am aware of what it was like before the 6.1 rework. However, if we look at the way they are handling it now there has been far more rewards added, and they have added some old ranked feast rewards into that pool. Again, I think having more rewards for the casual majority is welcomed since it benefits everyone. Yet having at least one incentive for people to go into ranked outside of the prestigious value is not bad either. Every form of hard content in this game has that incentive, don't know why it shouldn't apply to ranked pvp.