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  1. #11
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    TomsYoungerBro's Avatar
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    Tim Brady
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    Don't get me wrong, they are a cut above the average PFer, they do consistent dps, and rarely fail mechanics and usually don't cause wipes.
    Seems like there is no problem then lmao
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  2. #12
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Ah...

    who?
    ........Cares
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  3. #13
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    ........Cares
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  4. #14
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    nah why would anyone need to buy a TOP clear when you can grief p6 PFs by dying 30 times, see P6 once and get the log and insta-leave then get carried by saus while getting a 2.

    always look up heavenly/alpha legends and see what exactly their clear looks like

    the real good players are the ones who cleared ucob in 4.1 before all this mess with ACRs, PF terrorism, static drama
    As someone heavily engaged with the content I didn’t know what a sausage legend was until literally like a week before 6.4

    To me the issue seems overblown
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  5. #15
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Gaius Drakon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    As someone heavily engaged with the content I didn’t know what a sausage legend was until literally like a week before 6.4

    To me the issue seems overblown
    do you raid in statics?

    it's a total non-issue if you are in a static these people only terrorize pf

    ive never met any myself cos i literally never touch pf i avoid it like the plague

    best way to raid in this game: stay in a bubble (i.e. your FC and static) and ignore the wider raiding """"community"""" and yeah PF is the one way to quickly get exposed to all the dumb shit that goes on in the raiding """"community""""

    you do lose quite a lot of motivation to raid when you realize how prevalent ACRs, bought clears, outright cheats, drama, "unethical" behavior like joining statics just to get a p6 log to apply to another static etc. are, and imho it's gotten worse and worse which is why a lot of people stick to stormblood/heavensward/ARR groups where everyone has logs from at least since Alphascape, raiding boomers sorta but it's a good way to insulate yourself from the ShB/EW drama.

    anyways this game's pug scene has imo gotten so bad it's like radioactive tumor, it's literally night and day between pugs and statics. every time i try pugging it's like impossible to get anything done because people are so upset with each other

    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    Seems like there is no problem then lmao
    not everyone has mental fortitude and mood is actually important to raiding. you want the best raid environment, you need to be calm and collected and play with players at the same skill level. one or two bad players really just ruin the entire static, but one or two top players berating others causes the exact same issue. also you can't have too many neurotic people, you can have like maybe one person with outgoing adhd max, definitely no one with anxiety, can't have more than one natural leader, etc. the mental and personality game is prob far more important than skill so yeah OP's concerns are legit. that being said, it's PF you're naturally getting all the junk, you wanna pug and not deal with these issues? join one of those pugging linkshells/discords where you're not committed to strict static schedules, but you play with a pool of people who sorta know each other.

    side note: avoid people who are neurotic/anxious like the plague. I literally have never had any good experience raiding with them. If someone says "sry i panicked" more than twice in a lockout just leave. they will screw up once, start panicking and then get anxious and can't think straight for the rest of the night. like, holy shit, it's so bad it's unreal it's the only personality type where i can literally precisely track how their emotions are affecting their performance honestly this is one of the few things that set me off and if i ever get paired with someone like that i'll go joker mode LOL. i unironically would rather raid with someone who's constantly fighting with me or even someone who's extremely terrible at the game but doesn't panic than someone who panics 24/7
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    Last edited by GaiusDrakon; 06-11-2023 at 02:25 PM.

  6. #16
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    A trend I'm noticing on Aether PF is alpha legends joining prog pfs and just... playing around.

    Don't get me wrong, they are a cut above the average PFer, they do consistent dps, and rarely fail mechanics and usually don't cause wipes.

    However their attitude is making my blood boil.

    They act as if savage is below them and everyone else in the party who are trying to prog and clear the fight quickly are also below them.

    They are extremely rude (of course, making sure to never break ToS with what they say) and very passive aggressive, saying things like "I never watch hector guides" or asking very obvious questions to single out a person who made a mistake.

    They create a really uncomfortable pf enviroment and often times the PF disbands after a few pulls because it's exhausting to play with these kinds of people.

    if you're burned out from doing an ultimate and just join PFs to mess around with people I implore you, please stop. The rest of us are trying to get into serious raiding.
    If you are witnessing any player (Alpha Legend or not) repeatedly engaging in speech that has the effect of belittling yourself or others in your party indirectly, report it for Nuisance Behavior. Nuisance Behavior covers speech that would not fall under Harassment yet still has the effect of making others uncomfortable and disrupting the game experience. It's helpful to copy the portion of the Prohibited Activities policy that you feel applies to their speech/behavior.

    They're not going to stop doing it just because you ask them to. They've already shown what you want means nothing to them.
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  7. #17
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Zodiark
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    there are more than just one guide. and if you go in blind you've never seen one.... how is it passiv agressiv to say you havent seen a spevific guide?
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  8. #18
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Nothing wrong with getting critics.. if you can't take them, you may never be able to beat the content.

    Also don't rely on specific guides or whatever rely to the mechanics and mold out from that first of all you need is to know what the boss do and when you need to stand in special places to dodge something massive anyway, and as it is a scripted battle, you should quick enough be able to learn which does what, as it would be the same all the time in a figure of speech.
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  9. #19
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    People who buy titles dont magically get good.
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  10. #20
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    People who buy titles dont magically get good.
    Brother even people who didn’t buy the titles don’t magically get good I beat my head against a robot for 4 months it doesn’t really mean anything other than the fact that I did it.
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