Zodiark's Codex entry what do we think about it?

[SannaR]

Well, like I said, my own guess as to what makes the most sense is that... the question of "can they inherit the world as they first appeared, as made by Themis" wasn't the issue. The issue was "do we now guide this life towards something that could/will inherit it" - or, if you want to use kinder phrasing towards Venat's faction, perhaps letting it evolve and take shape naturally however it would, even if it meant evolving into something that would naturally displace the Ancients someday, as opposed to keeping it pruned carefully so as to serve as Zodiark fodder. So nobody, even if the "new life" as it ever materially existed and lived, was suggesting literally letting animals inherit the world. It was more choosing the Let Animals Potentially Evolve Into People direction or Evolve Animals Specifically Into Zodiark Fodder direction.

Oh I know that you aren't saying it was animals. Just some in the past maybe to make the convocation look less icky or whatever would always go for the it was plants and animals angle. It is hard to tell if the 1st two sacrifices had any kind of role they played (post acting as fuel). They did seem to dislike Fandaniel trying to assert control over them though. So they might had more to do than be in limbo. I also understand that they could evolve into people or just Zodiark fodder. Yet we know if they weren't people it'd take a bit for them to evolve enough into plant/animal people. Just look at the Ixal they used to be able to fly, but over five thousand years their arm feathers shrunk dramatically making them loose that ability.

I got that impression from shade Hythlodaeus and if Emet's convocation memory stone is about the new life Zodiark popped out then to me both hint that what came out wasn't what they were expecting. Course another problem that I don't think anyone has brought up before is we don't know a quantity for the new life. I know in the long run it wouldn't matter. But if said life wasn't meant to be more than just give the planet a kick start and was even as big as the amount of the 2nd sacrifice then the only reason to me at least to cultivate them is due to their thinness in aether. Which I mean why didn't Zodiark make em chunky? After all he should have been able to do so.

For me it comes down to A) they didn't make em chunky cause that's not how creations/familiars normally were made or B ) they for whatever reason couldn't pop out chunky aether bodies. Even after being allowed to rewrite the laws of the star. If B then one can assume there's a problem that doesn't allow for that. If A then they needed to (and obviously didn't get time to do so) stop thinking that new life that they make needs to be creation thin.