Crystaline Conflict is the worst

[Fawkes]

How about you just stick with pve?

[Ransu]

I want:

- Solo queue to be left alone

- Solo ranked queue to be left alone

- SE to introduce an EXTRA!!! queue for groups (so one group vs another group)

- You to buy some glasses and learn how to read, i can help you with the latter if you want

A group only queue would never pop. Its why people are asking for duo or trios.

[Ranaku]

A group only queue would never pop. Its why people are asking for duo or trios.

And i said i don't want that, so idk what you are on, lol. Seems like now you are the one who is kinda all over the place.

And nobody knows that for sure, it could flop yeah or maybe people actually enjoy it. Can't know if they don't try.

[Ransu]

And i said i don't want that, so idk what you are on, lol. Seems like now you are the one who is kinda all over the place.

And nobody knows that for sure, it could flop yeah or maybe people actually enjoy it. Can't know if they don't try.

We had a group queue with feast. It was completely dead. PvP will always be niche in this game and splitting the playerbase even more is pointless. The pushback on allowing casuals to have duo or trios is ridiculous and ranked being purely solo is fine.

[Ranaku]

We had a group queue with feast. It was completely dead. PvP will always be niche in this game and splitting the playerbase even more is pointless. The pushback on allowing casuals to have duo or trios is ridiculous and ranked being purely solo is fine.

Feast was dead for vastly different reasons, mostly the horrendous wintrading scene. Or that it wasn't sustainable at all, not to mention that there weren't really many rewards people could get from feast. All of which has changed already and made PvP in XIV more popular than ever before.

And duos/trios can obliterate enemy teams easily if they aren't coordinated. If i had a ninja sidekick all the time i would win every match cause that's just how it would go, lol. No thanks, leave the solo queue alone. For both ranked and unranked.

[Shougun]

Feast was dead for vastly different reasons, mostly the horrendous wintrading scene. Or that it wasn't sustainable at all, not to mention that there weren't really many rewards people could get from feast. All of which has changed already and made PvP in XIV more popular than ever before.

And duos/trios can obliterate enemy teams easily if they aren't coordinated. If i had a ninja sidekick all the time i would win every match cause that's just how it would go, lol. No thanks, leave the solo queue alone. For both ranked and unranked.

My CC queue is regularly under 5, just to add to the idea PvP is no longer dead. And I appreciate leaving solo queue alone

[ThaCa]

So yeah, PVP ESPECIALLY RANKED IS JUST A LUCK BASED RNG ROULETTE. And since everyone is doing it cause there is literally no difference to unranked matches you have A LOT of bad players in there which don't care about actually playing pvp.

Sure, tell that to people who regularly hit top 100 and climb with low amount of games played. Or is it a secret cabal of wintraders that has hold on every single DC?

[Archeron]

There basically was a cabal of wintraders on the NA DC's, who got slapped on the wrist. Lets not even talk about people using third party tools.

That alone would be enough to discourage someone from wanting to rank to top 100 when PvP is so poorly moderated, and penalties are not high enough to discourage illicit gameplay. Not to mention the casual population of our game who already have a low opinion of PvP. It just makes the image of FFXIV PvP even worse than it already is. If people think augmented hellhound weapons are going to change that, sorry to say but probably not.

CC queues are fine as they are, we don't need premades. If they're going to change anything they can just merge both casual and ranked and put in a better matchmaker, and assign rank promotions/demotions based on ingame performance. Assuming anyone has faith in SE implementing any changes to PvP with their current track record.

[MsMisato]

We had a group queue with feast. It was completely dead. PvP will always be niche in this game and splitting the playerbase even more is pointless. The pushback on allowing casuals to have duo or trios is ridiculous and ranked being purely solo is fine.

the feast resulting in wintrading and such that was issue with the feast. It was done over within the first couple of weeks.

[Shougun]

Sure, tell that to people who regularly hit top 100 and climb with low amount of games played. Or is it a secret cabal of wintraders that has hold on every single DC?

There basically was a cabal of wintraders on the NA DC's, who got slapped on the wrist. Lets not even talk about people using third party tools.

That alone would be enough to discourage someone from wanting to rank to top 100 when PvP is so poorly moderated, and penalties are not high enough to discourage illicit gameplay. Not to mention the casual population of our game who already have a low opinion of PvP. It just makes the image of FFXIV PvP even worse than it already is. If people think augmented hellhound weapons are going to change that, sorry to say but probably not.

CC queues are fine as they are, we don't need premades. If they're going to change anything they can just merge both casual and ranked and put in a better matchmaker, and assign rank promotions/demotions based on ingame performance. Assuming anyone has faith in SE implementing any changes to PvP with their current track record.

Mentioned before, and someone else did too, but top 100 systems are 24 / 7 forever and ever always going to be TERRIBLE systems whenever there is an additional human component and especially when there is value. Strongly feel SE should stop using them to do anything exclusive beyond at /best/ a special portrait option.

Even if they had 100% record on stopping cheating whether that is actual hax0rs or win trading, it will still invite a very unique level of dedication that, imo, can be easily cynically described as "no-life'ing". It's at minimum either an unhealthy or unfair system or at worst both unhealthy AND unfair lol. They're just bad, and it's not because of their mechanics- it's because of people being people. Comparative systems for the fun of it, sure whatever- but they shouldn't be used for anything beyond a cute novelty.

Reminds me of the Ishgard leaderboards and the insane numbers, and obvious bots, that were involved (though that system did just use it for novelty, so /shrug haha). Just a bad system to take seriously due to components out of the system itself, and I'm disappointed every time SE thinks to use it in PvP for anything above a portrait.